We have now received comprehensive official information from Royal Mail about what is happening in the Post and Go world. We are not stocking these, but thought that collectors would be interested to know what the plans are. See also the note at the foot of the post about other plans/
The previous post (sourced from IAR) will now be closed to further comments.
*
Mail Rail = the Underground Railway stamp from the Mail by Rail set [NP]
See update at foot of post re Postal Museum Winter Greenery
FAA Concorde dates corrected by Royal Mail as museum is not open on 4th & 5th November.
N.B. The above list is a limited overprint plan, it is not intended to replicate the full and comprehensive overprint schedules seen over previous years, nothing should be read into any kiosks omitted from this list as they may feature in future lists.
UPDATE 2 November:
Thanks to Chris Hockaday (ebay seller royalnavalcovers) and dealer who frequents Stampex, and other fairs, I am able to add this picture of the MA19 Poppy
Chris records the following on his current ebay listing:
Update 5 November:
Also from Chris's sales on eBay, the Shakespeare double-overprint error reported by 'Anonymous' (note this is on MA17 stock).
This has not only 'Shakespeare Birthplace Trust' 'but the expected 'Shakespeare 1564'. A nice little bonus for those collectors and dealers who can get or make arrangements to get the stock. The Shakespeare 1616 is on undated Machin stock.
Update 6 November
Based on this example from eBay seller gbphil09 it might have been better to have run some trial prints before going live at FAAM on A003, which is missing the right side of Concorde, the plane and the word, and most of the 0,
We have received several reports that the FAAM machine A1003 was working correctly at the start of business.
Post Office Self-Service Kiosks
We understand from Norwich's main post office (in WHSmith) that no poppies will be installed there and that Winter Greenery will be used from 5 November, the date of issue of the Christmas stamps.
Update 4 November
Information has now been received that the Winter Greenery will be in all SSK offices from tomorrow, 5 November. I expect old stock to be used but some new stock to have been printed. Reports awaited!
Later:
Thanks to JG I can now show the 2019 printings of the Winter Greenery stamps. Cambridge city PO "had been supplied with boxes of Winter Greenery stamps for use from today, and most were 2019, although some were 2018 (left over stock as you suspected!)" But not all branches have these stamps available (See comments).
These show CL19S on the 2nd class and R19AL on the 1st.
Update 8 November
As we have news here about new printings of Winter Greenery it seems appropriate to include the 2019 reprint of the Machin definitive post and go stamps as well. The background printing is now very light so I have digitally enhanced this image from DP showing the 1st class R19YAL coding below 'Class' found at Richmond, Surrey.
A further report, just in.
"Winter Greenery both first and second class year code 2019 in all 3 machines at Islington. Poppy to be added to the 3rd machine." (DF)
Update 21 November from Royal Mail:
Following the publication of the Quarterly overprint plan for Post & Go last month, we have received extensive feedback requesting a Christmas stamp.
As the 1st Class Winter Greenery stamps are being introduced elsewhere, it will be added to the Mail Rail kiosk, replacing the Machin definitive and will run from 2nd December to 31 December 2019.
[corrected version]
A reminder that regular news about Post Office SSK branch changes is reported in the comments on this Post and Go post.
The previous post (sourced from IAR) will now be closed to further comments.
Post
and Go Overprints:
We
are pleased to be able to confirm a new series of overprints for
selected Post & Go kiosk locations. Included in this list is the
relocation of kiosk A005 from East Anglia Railway Museum to Mail Rail
@ The Postal Museum, which went live this week with a positive early
response from collectors. We will
update this list again in early 2020.
Location
|
Kiosk
|
Stamp
|
Current
Overprint
|
New
Overprint
|
Start
Date
|
End
Date
|
TPM
|
A001
|
Mail
Coach reel
|
NPM50
|
New
Exhibit 2019
|
11/10/2019
|
Ongoing
|
TPM
|
A001
|
Machin
1st
|
NPM50
|
No
Overprint
|
11/10/2019
|
Ongoing
|
TPM
|
A001
|
Machin
2nd
|
No
overprint
|
No
Overprint
|
11/10/2019
|
Ongoing
|
TPM
|
A001
|
Mail
Rail *
|
No
overprint
|
No
Overprint
|
11/10/2019
|
Ongoing
|
TPM
|
A001
|
Mail
by Air
|
Airmail
1919
|
Airmail
1919
|
11/10/2019
|
Ongoing
|
TPM
|
A001
|
Mail
by Rail
|
N/A
|
New
Exhibit 2019
|
Pack
Only
|
N/A
|
Mail
Rail
|
A005
|
Mail
Rail *
|
N/A
|
Mail
Rail
|
29/10/2019
|
Ongoing
|
Mail
Rail
|
A005
|
Machin
1st
|
N/A
|
Mail
Rail
|
29/10/2019
|
Ongoing
|
Royal
Navy Museum Portsmouth
|
A002
|
Poppy
|
No
overprint
|
Lest
We Forget 100
|
01/11/2019
|
30/11/2019
|
Fleet
Air Arm
|
A003
|
Union
Flag
|
No
overprint
|
Concorde
50 Years
|
06/11/2019 |
Ongoing
|
Fleet
Air Arm
|
A003
|
Machin
|
No
overprint
|
Concorde
50 Years (+ logo)
|
06/11/2019 |
Ongoing
|
Submarine
|
A004
|
Poppy
|
No
overprint
|
Lest
We Forget 100
|
01/11/2019
|
30/11/2019
|
HMS
Trincomalee
|
A006
|
Poppy
|
No
overprint
|
Lest
We Forget 100
|
01/11/2019
|
30/11/2019
|
Explosion
Museum
|
A007
|
Poppy
|
No
overprint
|
Lest
We Forget 100
|
01/11/2019
|
30/11/2019
|
Shakespeare
Shop
|
A009
|
Flowers
|
No
overprint
|
Shakespeare
1564
|
04/11/2019
|
Ongoing
|
Shakespeare
Shop
|
A009
|
Machin
|
No
overprint
|
Shakespeare
1616
|
04/11/2019
|
Ongoing
|
See update at foot of post re Postal Museum Winter Greenery
FAA Concorde dates corrected by Royal Mail as museum is not open on 4th & 5th November.
N.B. The above list is a limited overprint plan, it is not intended to replicate the full and comprehensive overprint schedules seen over previous years, nothing should be read into any kiosks omitted from this list as they may feature in future lists.
UPDATE 2 November:
Thanks to Chris Hockaday (ebay seller royalnavalcovers) and dealer who frequents Stampex, and other fairs, I am able to add this picture of the MA19 Poppy
Chris records the following on his current ebay listing:
A006 HMS Trincomalee - details to follow.Kiosk A002 Navy Museum Poppy MA15Kiosk A004 Submarine Navy Museum Poppy MA15Kiosk A007 Explosion Museum Poppy MA19
Update 5 November:
Also from Chris's sales on eBay, the Shakespeare double-overprint error reported by 'Anonymous' (note this is on MA17 stock).
This has not only 'Shakespeare Birthplace Trust' 'but the expected 'Shakespeare 1564'. A nice little bonus for those collectors and dealers who can get or make arrangements to get the stock. The Shakespeare 1616 is on undated Machin stock.
Update 6 November
Based on this example from eBay seller gbphil09 it might have been better to have run some trial prints before going live at FAAM on A003, which is missing the right side of Concorde, the plane and the word, and most of the 0,
We have received several reports that the FAAM machine A1003 was working correctly at the start of business.
Post Office Self-Service Kiosks
We understand from Norwich's main post office (in WHSmith) that no poppies will be installed there and that Winter Greenery will be used from 5 November, the date of issue of the Christmas stamps.
Update 4 November
Information has now been received that the Winter Greenery will be in all SSK offices from tomorrow, 5 November. I expect old stock to be used but some new stock to have been printed. Reports awaited!
Later:
Thanks to JG I can now show the 2019 printings of the Winter Greenery stamps. Cambridge city PO "had been supplied with boxes of Winter Greenery stamps for use from today, and most were 2019, although some were 2018 (left over stock as you suspected!)" But not all branches have these stamps available (See comments).
These show CL19S on the 2nd class and R19AL on the 1st.
Update 8 November
As we have news here about new printings of Winter Greenery it seems appropriate to include the 2019 reprint of the Machin definitive post and go stamps as well. The background printing is now very light so I have digitally enhanced this image from DP showing the 1st class R19YAL coding below 'Class' found at Richmond, Surrey.
A further report, just in.
"Winter Greenery both first and second class year code 2019 in all 3 machines at Islington. Poppy to be added to the 3rd machine." (DF)
Update 21 November from Royal Mail:
Following the publication of the Quarterly overprint plan for Post & Go last month, we have received extensive feedback requesting a Christmas stamp.
As the 1st Class Winter Greenery stamps are being introduced elsewhere, it will be added to the Mail Rail kiosk, replacing the Machin definitive and will run from 2nd December to 31 December 2019.
[corrected version]
A reminder that regular news about Post Office SSK branch changes is reported in the comments on this Post and Go post.
Your list indicates that the Fleet Air Arm new issues are on Nov 4 while the IAR site suggests they are on Nov 6. Is the date on your list a recent amendment of the date on the IAR site?
ReplyDelete"We have now received comprehensive official information from Royal Mail about what is happening in the Post and Go world." The official source, not their contractor.
DeleteWhat actually happens will remain to be seen.
As no official re-issue of the Poppy label in Post Office SSKs, they have reprinted the label with MA19 date code https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POST-GO-2019-POPPY-LEST-WE-FORGET-100-NAVY-SUBMARINE-EXPLOSION-TRINCOMALEE/143429438290?hash=item21650f8b52:m:mZfWhWeT4iseFAxnl6CyN-g sold from A007, digital or photogravure printed?
ReplyDeleteI've asked the vendor for a scan of the w019 Poppy.
DeleteRe date for Fleet Air Arm Museum, they are not open on Monday or Tuesday during the winter months, hence Nov 6th.
ReplyDeleteAlso re the MA19 Poppy from Explosion, I don't know about digital or photogravure, but the background printing is grey compared with the Submarine & Dockyard Poppy stamps which both have sepia background printing.
Also, definitely no 'Lest we Forget' overprint on the Union Flag at any of the Portsmouth locations. Similar to the Mail Rail press release, which stated that a f.d.c. would be available to purchase in the Museum shop or online - NOT SO. Misinformation abounds.
Agreed re FAA, ROyal Mail have now corrected their details.
DeleteYou would also have been extremely lucky to get any stamps from the RN Explosion Museum on Nov 1st, as they are only open on Saturday and Sunday during the winter months.
ReplyDeleteTheir Winter programme begins on 4th November, so the museum was open 1st, 2nd & 3rd Nov.
DeleteThere were no Winter Greenery stamps in any of the four machines at my local Post Office in W H Smith's.
ReplyDeleteLooks like there was a major cock up at the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust yesterday with the P&G machine
ReplyDeletehttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POST-GO-2019-SHAKESPEARE-SYMBOLIC-FLOWERS-1564-MA17-MACHIN-1616-MA14-ERROR/143432349033?hash=item21653bf569:m:mMhbF-VzNhzIlGWc8MEngOg.
East Devon had a plethora of Machins including the 2nd class CL18S Machin Label
ReplyDelete601519 Honiton
67 1st Machin ‘14‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
68 1st Machin ‘14‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
619519 Exeter
67 1st Machin ‘18‘ - 2nd Machin ‘18’
68 1st Machin ‘16‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
69 1st Machin ‘16‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
70 1st Machin ‘16‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
71 1st Machin ‘16‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
022519 Exmouth
67 1st Machin ‘14‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
68 1st Machin ‘14‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
Oops a cut and paste error for Exmouth
ReplyDeleteSSK 67 should have been - 1st Machin ‘17‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
FAAM now on ebay, the printing on the Machins looks pretty poor from this example
ReplyDeletehttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Post-Go-Fleet-Air-Arm-Museum-Machin-Collectors-Strip-MA14-Concorde-o-p/333388676504?hash=item4d9f837d98:g:6TEAAOSwNlldwtZs
The ones listed by royalnavalcovers on ebay appear to be a better quality but from earlier in the day! Yet more random errors as well it would seem.
Delete156025 Richmond (Surrey)
ReplyDelete67 1st Machin ‘R17YAL’ – 2nd class Machin ‘CL17S’
68 1st Machin ’R17YAL – 2nd Winter Greenery ‘CL18S’
69 1st Machin ‘R19YAL’ – 2nd Machin ‘CL17S’
FAAM Concorde 50 Years + Logo printed OK in early trading as can be seen https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POST-GO-2019-CONCORDE-50-YEARS-UNION-FLAG-MACHIN-KIOSK-A005-FLEET-AIR-ARM/163933254113?hash=item262b2ef1e1:m:mCxmeXVJy_Q44S2DbMyR0DQ
ReplyDeleteWinter Greenery R19YAL & CL19S in all machines at Kensington today. I was told they had been in since Tuesday which ties in with the above
DeleteJust catching up with'tsunami' of P&G issues. Query from 5 Nov updates - Shakespeare 1616 - was it produced on undated stock?. Also - wre any Union Flag with 'Lest we forget' overprint produced (as in IAR post)?
ReplyDeletePeter
The main post office in Birmingham in Pinfold Street off Victoria Square does not have the winter greenery stamps, just the Machin Head Design
ReplyDeleteAs an aside, I have not yet found a post office in Birmingham that has stocked the Christmas miniature sheet except that Pinfold Street office had ‘received just 4 of them’ which of course are all sold out. They’re clearly not ‘freely available to the public’ which questions their status as postage stamps.
Winter Greenery will be put in the Postal Museum 'Rail Mail' P&G Machine on 2nd December 2019
ReplyDeletehttp://iarroyalmailpostandgo.com/latestnews/
A003 at the FAAM still producing very poor quality logo's on the Machin this morning, and receipt printer was 'broken' according to staff. Interestingly session number was 3769 and latest number I can see on items for sale on ebay is 3758 indicating very little use in 8 days following the first day. Perhaps its only the FDI purchases that make these installations viable!
ReplyDeleteThe Phosphor band affects the quality of the thermal printing on the labels.
ReplyDeleteGlasgow West Nile St, Sauchiehall St, Charing Cross and Edinburgh Waverley Mall all machines dispensing 2019 Winter Greenery today.
ReplyDeleteDoes anybody have spare collectors strips of the 2019 Poppy without any additional inscription, ie from SSK. Please email details and price to ian - at - norphil.co.uk
ReplyDeleteThanks
Manchester Spring Gardens had Winter Greenery 2nd class in Kiosks 67-71 on Saturday (21st) All first class were Machins (5 x R18YAL & 1 x MA16. Only Machin 2nd Class was CL16S in K72
ReplyDelete156025 Richmond (Surrey)
ReplyDeleteAll 3 SSKs all now have 1st Class Machin ‘R19YAL’ labels with the 2nd class Machins being 67 & 68 ‘17’ and 69 ‘16’
SSK 69 tends to cut the perfs off of the bottom of the last label in the strip of 6