Friday, 1 November 2019

The real Post and Go news for autumn 2019

We have now received comprehensive official information from Royal Mail about what is happening in the Post and Go world.  We are not stocking these, but thought that collectors would be interested to know what the plans are. See also the note at the foot of the post about other plans/  

The previous post (sourced from IAR) will now be closed to further comments.



Post and Go Overprints:

We are pleased to be able to confirm a new series of overprints for selected Post & Go kiosk locations. Included in this list is the relocation of kiosk A005 from East Anglia Railway Museum to Mail Rail @ The Postal Museum, which went live this week with a positive early response from collectors. We will update this list again in early 2020.

Location
Kiosk
Stamp
Current Overprint
New Overprint
Start Date
End Date
TPM
A001
Mail Coach reel
NPM50
New Exhibit 2019
11/10/2019
Ongoing
TPM
A001
Machin 1st
NPM50
No Overprint
11/10/2019
Ongoing
TPM
A001
Machin 2nd
No overprint
No Overprint
11/10/2019
Ongoing
TPM
A001
Mail Rail *
No overprint
No Overprint
11/10/2019
Ongoing
TPM
A001
Mail by Air
Airmail 1919
Airmail 1919
11/10/2019
Ongoing
TPM
A001
Mail by Rail
N/A
New Exhibit 2019
Pack Only
N/A
Mail Rail
A005
Mail Rail *
N/A
Mail Rail
29/10/2019
Ongoing
Mail Rail
A005
Machin 1st
N/A
Mail Rail
29/10/2019
Ongoing
Royal Navy Museum Portsmouth
A002
Poppy
No overprint
Lest We Forget 100
01/11/2019
30/11/2019
Fleet Air Arm
A003
Union Flag
No overprint
Concorde 50 Years
04/11/2019 
06/11/2019 
Ongoing
Fleet Air Arm
A003
Machin
No overprint
Concorde 50 Years (+ logo)
04/11/2019
06/11/2019 
Ongoing
Submarine
A004
Poppy
No overprint
Lest We Forget 100
01/11/2019
30/11/2019
HMS Trincomalee
A006
Poppy
No overprint
Lest We Forget 100
01/11/2019
30/11/2019
Explosion Museum
A007
Poppy
No overprint
Lest We Forget 100
01/11/2019
30/11/2019
Shakespeare Shop
A009
Flowers
No overprint
Shakespeare 1564
04/11/2019
Ongoing
Shakespeare Shop
A009
Machin
No overprint
Shakespeare 1616
04/11/2019
Ongoing
* Mail Rail = the Underground Railway stamp from the Mail by Rail set [NP]

FAA Concorde dates corrected by Royal Mail as museum is not open on 4th & 5th November.

N.B. The above list is a limited overprint plan, it is not intended to replicate the full and comprehensive overprint schedules seen over previous years, nothing should be read into any kiosks omitted from this list as they may feature in future lists.

UPDATE 2 November:
Thanks to Chris Hockaday (ebay seller royalnavalcovers) and dealer who frequents Stampex, and other fairs, I am able to add this picture of the MA19 Poppy


Chris records the following on his current ebay listing:
Kiosk A002 Navy Museum Poppy MA15
Kiosk A004 Submarine Navy Museum Poppy MA15
Kiosk A007 Explosion Museum Poppy MA19
A006 HMS Trincomalee - details to follow.

Update 5 November:
Also from Chris's sales on eBay, the Shakespeare double-overprint error reported by 'Anonymous' (note this is on MA17 stock).

This has not only 'Shakespeare Birthplace Trust' 'but the expected 'Shakespeare 1564'.  A nice little bonus for those collectors and dealers who can get or make arrangements to get the stock.  The Shakespeare 1616 is on undated Machin stock.


Update 6 November
Based on this example from eBay seller gbphil09 it might have been better to have run some trial prints before going live at FAAM on A003, which is missing the right side of Concorde, the plane and the word, and most of the 0,


We have received several reports that the FAAM machine A1003 was working correctly at the start of business.





Post Office Self-Service Kiosks 
We understand from Norwich's main post office (in WHSmith) that no poppies will be installed there and that Winter Greenery will be used from 5 November, the date of issue of the Christmas stamps.

Update 4 November
Information has now been received that the Winter Greenery will be in all SSK offices from tomorrow, 5 November.  I expect old stock to be used but some new stock to have been printed.  Reports awaited!

Later:
Thanks to JG I can now show the 2019 printings of the Winter Greenery stamps.   Cambridge city PO "had been supplied with boxes of Winter Greenery stamps for use from today, and most were 2019, although some were 2018 (left over stock as you suspected!)"  But not all branches have these stamps available (See comments).


These show CL19S on the 2nd class and R19AL on the 1st.

 
Update 8 November
As we have news here about new printings of Winter Greenery it seems appropriate to include the 2019 reprint of the Machin definitive post and go stamps as well.  The background printing is now very light so I have digitally enhanced this image from DP showing the 1st class R19YAL coding below 'Class' found at Richmond, Surrey.

 

A further report, just in.
"Winter Greenery both first and second class year code 2019 in all 3 machines at Islington. Poppy to be added to the 3rd machine."  (DF)



A reminder that regular news about Post Office SSK branch changes is reported in the comments on this Post and Go post




21 comments:

  1. Your list indicates that the Fleet Air Arm new issues are on Nov 4 while the IAR site suggests they are on Nov 6. Is the date on your list a recent amendment of the date on the IAR site?

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    1. "We have now received comprehensive official information from Royal Mail about what is happening in the Post and Go world." The official source, not their contractor.

      What actually happens will remain to be seen.

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  2. As no official re-issue of the Poppy label in Post Office SSKs, they have reprinted the label with MA19 date code https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POST-GO-2019-POPPY-LEST-WE-FORGET-100-NAVY-SUBMARINE-EXPLOSION-TRINCOMALEE/143429438290?hash=item21650f8b52:m:mZfWhWeT4iseFAxnl6CyN-g sold from A007, digital or photogravure printed?

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    1. I've asked the vendor for a scan of the w019 Poppy.

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  3. Re date for Fleet Air Arm Museum, they are not open on Monday or Tuesday during the winter months, hence Nov 6th.
    Also re the MA19 Poppy from Explosion, I don't know about digital or photogravure, but the background printing is grey compared with the Submarine & Dockyard Poppy stamps which both have sepia background printing.
    Also, definitely no 'Lest we Forget' overprint on the Union Flag at any of the Portsmouth locations. Similar to the Mail Rail press release, which stated that a f.d.c. would be available to purchase in the Museum shop or online - NOT SO. Misinformation abounds.

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    1. Agreed re FAA, ROyal Mail have now corrected their details.

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  4. You would also have been extremely lucky to get any stamps from the RN Explosion Museum on Nov 1st, as they are only open on Saturday and Sunday during the winter months.

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    1. Their Winter programme begins on 4th November, so the museum was open 1st, 2nd & 3rd Nov.

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  5. There were no Winter Greenery stamps in any of the four machines at my local Post Office in W H Smith's.

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  6. Looks like there was a major cock up at the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust yesterday with the P&G machine

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POST-GO-2019-SHAKESPEARE-SYMBOLIC-FLOWERS-1564-MA17-MACHIN-1616-MA14-ERROR/143432349033?hash=item21653bf569:m:mMhbF-VzNhzIlGWc8MEngOg.

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  7. East Devon had a plethora of Machins including the 2nd class CL18S Machin Label

    601519 Honiton
    67 1st Machin ‘14‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
    68 1st Machin ‘14‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’

    619519 Exeter
    67 1st Machin ‘18‘ - 2nd Machin ‘18’
    68 1st Machin ‘16‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
    69 1st Machin ‘16‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
    70 1st Machin ‘16‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
    71 1st Machin ‘16‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’

    022519 Exmouth
    67 1st Machin ‘14‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’
    68 1st Machin ‘14‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’

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  8. Oops a cut and paste error for Exmouth
    SSK 67 should have been - 1st Machin ‘17‘ - 2nd Machin ‘17’

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  9. FAAM now on ebay, the printing on the Machins looks pretty poor from this example
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Post-Go-Fleet-Air-Arm-Museum-Machin-Collectors-Strip-MA14-Concorde-o-p/333388676504?hash=item4d9f837d98:g:6TEAAOSwNlldwtZs

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    1. The ones listed by royalnavalcovers on ebay appear to be a better quality but from earlier in the day! Yet more random errors as well it would seem.

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  10. 156025 Richmond (Surrey)
    67 1st Machin ‘R17YAL’ – 2nd class Machin ‘CL17S’
    68 1st Machin ’R17YAL – 2nd Winter Greenery ‘CL18S’
    69 1st Machin ‘R19YAL’ – 2nd Machin ‘CL17S’

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  11. FAAM Concorde 50 Years + Logo printed OK in early trading as can be seen https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POST-GO-2019-CONCORDE-50-YEARS-UNION-FLAG-MACHIN-KIOSK-A005-FLEET-AIR-ARM/163933254113?hash=item262b2ef1e1:m:mCxmeXVJy_Q44S2DbMyR0DQ

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    1. Winter Greenery R19YAL & CL19S in all machines at Kensington today. I was told they had been in since Tuesday which ties in with the above

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  12. Just catching up with'tsunami' of P&G issues. Query from 5 Nov updates - Shakespeare 1616 - was it produced on undated stock?. Also - wre any Union Flag with 'Lest we forget' overprint produced (as in IAR post)?
    Peter

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  13. The main post office in Birmingham in Pinfold Street off Victoria Square does not have the winter greenery stamps, just the Machin Head Design

    As an aside, I have not yet found a post office in Birmingham that has stocked the Christmas miniature sheet except that Pinfold Street office had ‘received just 4 of them’ which of course are all sold out. They’re clearly not ‘freely available to the public’ which questions their status as postage stamps.

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  14. Winter Greenery will be put in the Postal Museum 'Rail Mail' P&G Machine on 2nd December 2019
    http://iarroyalmailpostandgo.com/latestnews/

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  15. A003 at the FAAM still producing very poor quality logo's on the Machin this morning, and receipt printer was 'broken' according to staff. Interestingly session number was 3769 and latest number I can see on items for sale on ebay is 3758 indicating very little use in 8 days following the first day. Perhaps its only the FDI purchases that make these installations viable!

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