As readers will know there have been no new Post and Go stamps issued by Royal Mail, and none is in the programme for the current year. Some agree with this, some would welcome more of these and fewer expensive stamp issues.
The British Postmark Society Journal report for April includes the following which may be of interest to those collectors still looking for Post and Go. It is worth noting that if the reels are being used for the 'post an item' option, ie with a value on, use of old stock may produce something totally new, so it is worth looking in kiloware as well. I was reminded of this by the receipt this morning of an eBay purchase with a MA16 1st class Machin with value, date, and weight shown - see picture.
I'm grateful to DP for sending some examples of various Post & Go stamps with old and new European postage rates:
"I wanted to get examples from both Huddersfield offices, which was pointless as the Northumberland Street office’s three machines were switched off and the New Street office’s two were on but out of service. At New Street I was told that they didn’t have any stock for the machines. Otherwise they would have turned it on for me to get the collectors strip. Colchester and Ipswich both turned the machines on for me to get collectors strips. However Chesterfield wouldn’t.
"From correspondence with the Post Office I’ve had questioning if the relocated Ealing branch would have SSKs, I was told that they don’t publicise that information and won’t be adding new location or amending existing branches."
I looked at the Post Office website Branch Finder page, and Post and Go is still listed in the filter selection and in Branch Details. If it is kept updated then that is good for collectors.
UPDATE 24 May: JE of the British Postmark Society has made this very valid point about the Post Office Branch Finder, showing that their database is not accurate. That may be what was meant in the last line in italics, just above.
UPDATE 9 July: According to the August edition of Stamp Magazine it is possible that some formats of Post and Go stamps are not being reprinted.
"The Postal Museum and other sites with Royal Mail kiosks have been unable to replenish their stocks, including stamps which were digitally printed.
"Machin-head stamps with the year coded '18' are available from a few machines, but nothing more has been updated. Existing stocks are being used up, with a few oldies appearing among them."
As Don Staddon writes, "The situation will need to be resolved soon".
The implication is that Royal Mail are reprinting the stamps required for Post Office SSKs, but not for their own machines. Strange.
UPDATE 8 November.
Thank you to all readers who continue to update the changes in branch details, openings, closures, moves and FADs. There hasn't been much general news about the Post and Go stamps available from Royal Mail but a new report here is a comprehensive list of what the Museum machines carried during autumn 2019.
It also depicts the Winter Greenery stamps used at Post Office branches including the 2019 reprint, and the Machin 1st class 2019 reprint has now been reported, shown below digitally enhanced.
Any NEW stamps and reprints of old will be shown in new posts. This post will continue, for the time being to record changes similar to those already included in the comments. A new 2020 post will probably start early in the new year.
UPDATE - It would be useful and much appreciated if, for relocated or other new offices, readers could provide Office name, postal address inc postcode, and FAD.
This information will be of use to collectors monitoring Horizon labels as well as Post and Go. Any changes NOT involving P&G SSKs are also welcome, but probably best sent by email rather than as comments here.
The British Postmark Society Journal report for April includes the following which may be of interest to those collectors still looking for Post and Go. It is worth noting that if the reels are being used for the 'post an item' option, ie with a value on, use of old stock may produce something totally new, so it is worth looking in kiloware as well. I was reminded of this by the receipt this morning of an eBay purchase with a MA16 1st class Machin with value, date, and weight shown - see picture.
No new designs appeared in the first quarter of 2019, but the Winter Greenery designs reintroduced on 1 November 2018 continued in use into the new year. Various older issues reappear as stock is used up – for example, on 10 April 2019 kiosk 68 at Chorley was issuing Symbolic Flowers (2014) for 1st class/international and Hibernating Animals (2016) for 2nd class. Meanwhile, Winter Fur and Feathers (2015) was found at Camden High Street and undated Poppies were still being issued at South Norwood.
In a number of cases, rolls of Post & Go stamps are inserted in the wrong reel of a kiosk, either in error or because of a shortage of the correct stamps. Two recent examples found were 1st class letter on 2nd class (blue) Machin stamps from Camden High Street and 1st class letter on 2nd (blue) Game of Thrones stamps from Slough.UPDATE 17 May
I'm grateful to DP for sending some examples of various Post & Go stamps with old and new European postage rates:
Robin MA13 from Harrogate
Poppy R17YAL from St Albans
Poppy MA16
Machin M17YAL from Farnham
"It
does raise the question do we collect the service type or the value of the
label which echoes what someone wrote about the Post and Go Christmas tour a
few years ago about receipts."
Receipts are especially useful for location confirmation as it is more and more difficult to keep track of where old machines have gone and more particularly where new machines are installed, sometimes without publicity if they are the smaller machines with a counter mini-terminal as well.
"I wanted to get examples from both Huddersfield offices, which was pointless as the Northumberland Street office’s three machines were switched off and the New Street office’s two were on but out of service. At New Street I was told that they didn’t have any stock for the machines. Otherwise they would have turned it on for me to get the collectors strip. Colchester and Ipswich both turned the machines on for me to get collectors strips. However Chesterfield wouldn’t.
"From correspondence with the Post Office I’ve had questioning if the relocated Ealing branch would have SSKs, I was told that they don’t publicise that information and won’t be adding new location or amending existing branches."
I looked at the Post Office website Branch Finder page, and Post and Go is still listed in the filter selection and in Branch Details. If it is kept updated then that is good for collectors.
UPDATE 24 May: JE of the British Postmark Society has made this very valid point about the Post Office Branch Finder, showing that their database is not accurate. That may be what was meant in the last line in italics, just above.
The Branch Finder does not necessarily yield correct and up-to-date information.
Some locations shown as having Self-service Kiosks no longer have them - e.g. Dundee, which had SSKs in the old Head Post Office (Meadowside) lost them in February 2018 when the franchised replacement PO opened at 30 Whitehall St, but the new location appears as a Post & Go office on the Branch Finder.
Even more extreme - Southport's main PO in WHSmith, Chapel St, lost its SSKs in 2014, when the Wincor-Nixdorf machines were withdrawn!
Conversely, POs which have acquired SSKs more recently, such as Slough August 2016), Burnham (Slough)(Autumn 2017), South Norwood (august 2017) and Barkingside (2017), do not appear when the Post & Go filter is applied...Anybody trying to maintain a complete and current list has an uphill task!
UPDATE 9 July: According to the August edition of Stamp Magazine it is possible that some formats of Post and Go stamps are not being reprinted.
"The Postal Museum and other sites with Royal Mail kiosks have been unable to replenish their stocks, including stamps which were digitally printed.
"Machin-head stamps with the year coded '18' are available from a few machines, but nothing more has been updated. Existing stocks are being used up, with a few oldies appearing among them."
As Don Staddon writes, "The situation will need to be resolved soon".
The implication is that Royal Mail are reprinting the stamps required for Post Office SSKs, but not for their own machines. Strange.
UPDATE 8 November.
Thank you to all readers who continue to update the changes in branch details, openings, closures, moves and FADs. There hasn't been much general news about the Post and Go stamps available from Royal Mail but a new report here is a comprehensive list of what the Museum machines carried during autumn 2019.
It also depicts the Winter Greenery stamps used at Post Office branches including the 2019 reprint, and the Machin 1st class 2019 reprint has now been reported, shown below digitally enhanced.
Any NEW stamps and reprints of old will be shown in new posts. This post will continue, for the time being to record changes similar to those already included in the comments. A new 2020 post will probably start early in the new year.
UPDATE - It would be useful and much appreciated if, for relocated or other new offices, readers could provide Office name, postal address inc postcode, and FAD.
This information will be of use to collectors monitoring Horizon labels as well as Post and Go. Any changes NOT involving P&G SSKs are also welcome, but probably best sent by email rather than as comments here.
There are no undated poppy labels they are either MA14 (from Symbolic Flowers & solo rolls) MA15, MA16, R17YAL and R18YAL.
ReplyDeleteThe 1st class R18YAL Machin has surfaced in a number of post offices in Yorkshire, given the number of new ssk installations around the country due to the current spate of franchising, they may be more widely available.
As for the ‘errors’ many will have their suspicions about these being done as a ‘favour’ from a conversation overheard in a Post Office yesterday, adds weight to that train of thought.
There does need to be a degree of vigilance for collectors when buying these stamps at the moment. A Crown Office who has its last day today (15/05/19) had Robins MA13, Machin MA16 and undated Machins.
So if you collect the OV stamps you have the opportunity to get the A/Lge Letter versions on Robin MA13 and undated Machin. The A/Lge Letter are rarely seen on internet auction sites, whether that’s down to cost, lack of awareness because they vend on items up to 9gr (some machines will vend up to 19g before they print as faux Horizon label) or they don’t mirror the collectors set; who knows.
Every time I get a large letter stamp from the machines it comes out on the large size label, due to weight I’m guessing, as they say every day’s a school day.
ReplyDeleteIt took a while to comprehend the receipt comment (it also took q while to find the post https://blog.norphil.co.uk/2013/11/nomadic-pop-up-post-office-shop-now-you.html?showComment=1384713767603#c4140604619119419967) , which I think referred to the change of location of the mobile units in Newcastle upon Tyne over two days.
The robin and poppy stamps do show the point which I’m guessing the comment below is supposed to illustrate. They inscribed at the worldwide zone 1 rate (left) and worldwide zone 2 rate (right). Do you really need both or just an example of the zone 1 stamp?
Do you just content yourself with the European version as illustrated with the Farnham (Machin)?
Do you get the OV stamps for the single image issue (Machin, Flag, Poppy, Robin Game of Thrones)?
Europe rates (code ‘4’)
2nd class, 2nd Large (£1.37 rates correct at 19/05/19)
1st Class, 1st Large, Europe up to 20g, Europe up to 100g, Europe Large Letter (£7.51 rates correct at 19/05/19)
Channel Islands and Worldwide (code ‘5’)
2nd class, 2nd Large (£1.37 rates correct at 19/05/19)
1st Class, 1st Large, Worldwide up to 10g, Worldwide up to 20g, Worldwide up to 100g, Worldwide large letter zone 1, Worldwide large letter zone 2 (£14.01 rates correct at 19/05/19)
Do you get the OV stamps for the 6 stamp pictorial issues?
Europe rates (code ‘4’) £45.06 rates correct at 19/05/19
Worldwide (code ‘5’) £84.06 rates correct at 19/05/19
Do you go for a set of stamps which mirror the comparable Machin definitive stamps?
£0.70, £1.06, £1.35, £1.60, £2.30, £2.80, £3.45, £3.60 (£16.86 rates correct at 19/05/19)
As ever, what one collects is down to the parameters we set for our collections, some will want all types, others will settle for specimen examples whilst others will have a collection which is representative of what is available.
The above is for mint examples, you also have the Signed for, Special Delivery, Parcelforce and International services which are only readily available used. It also doesn’t take into account the large labels versions which are above the basic weight stamps.
It’s nice to know there are some helpful WHSmith run post offices, most of the ones I’ve been to, you would not dare to ask if a machine could be turned on for you!
The image of the Poppy MA16 stamps are from pre-WHSmith Fareham Crown Office.
Thank you, you have summed up the situation very well.
DeleteI made a point of selling single 1st class stamps in a single design, or strips of 6 x 1st for multiple designs. Many people just wanted the stamp, by design, rather than by value as they are listed in Gibbons' Concise catalogue, rather than spending money on multiple values.
That said..... one of each of the available FIXED values, covering the various changes, makes a good selection. So the brown Machin has
1st
1st Large
Europe 20g
Europe 20g/World 10g
Europe 60g
Europe 100g
Worldwide 10g
Worldwide 20g
Worldwide 40g
Worldwide 60g
Worldwide 100g
And having one of each of these for each design is quite a task.
The different machine types and years makes life over-complicated. The museum and show overprints are best left as just a single 1st class if one must have them!
Even if you just go for the fixed NVIs, you still have the various colour changes to the 1st class Brown Machins. The original colour, the colour WSP decided to use, and the grey versions (R17YAL and R18YAL) which match the large labels and Horizon labels.
DeleteThe museum/events/exhibitions/conferences/Royal Mail/MOD locations are probably best ignored as are the UK stamps vended, as are those UK labels issues in Gibraltar, Guernsey and Jersey and other countries ISO codes in the data string.
It could be argued that the above were the straw that broke the camels back when it comes to collecting P&G labels.
AS someone who is trying to collect examples from all NCR equipped offices, it is certainly a challenge. Though with the combined use of advance rail tickets, rovers and rangers tickets and assorted bus journeys it’s not extremely difficult and you do get to see different parts of England, Wales and Scotland. I’ve given up on the ides of getting examples from Norther Ireland. At one time there were a more seller on that internet auction sight that’s based (for Europe) just over the river from me.
ReplyDeleteCurrently, I estimate that there are 308 offices with NCR machines. This includes those Post Offices which have closed due to franchising, leases on premises ending and branch closures for other reasons.
I have just over 60 offices (including forthcoming franchises) to get, not to difficult, but with mental health issues and being the primary carer for an elderly mother with dementia, it’s slightly more complex.
I know some would consider this lunacy and there are times I would concur, but is it any different in concept as someone who collect the various letter combinations on the Victorian stamps with letters in the corner of the stamps to rebuild a complete sheet? Plus I get to see parts of the country I would not have otherwise seen!
One of our other readers has offered to help out with Belfast, the only NI P&G office.
DeleteIf you would like to email me I will send you his details and you can take it from there. (See details at top right unless on smartphone)
I have a pair from Knutsford if it's required
DeleteNo, not lunacy at all. A very valid collecting interest and you may possibly become one of very few, if not the only, collector with a reference collection if you can complete the task. Good luck!
ReplyDeleteIf I may add to this subject and for the benefit of Anon above I to along with 3 other collectors I know also collect examples from all NCR offices and kiosks.
ReplyDeleteI may not know all the offices but the figures I have are up to today
301 offices open or closed with a further 16 opened / franchised so far this year giving a total of 317.
As per consultations out to date there are a further 17 offices going to new premises (mostly WH Smith) and 1 new location so far announced dates are
30th May Andover
3rd June Ealing (possible) not mentioned on consultation as having NCR but there have been errors on these in the past and for reference wont open until 13:00 I will be going and will report back.
6th June Wokingham and Wigan
13th June Farnham, Grantham and Solihull
20th June Trowbridge
27th June Dartford and Chester
4th July Bath
5th July Huddersfield (still provisional)
Those coming up during Summer and Autumn are Oldham, St Helens and Darlington.
Worthing and Sutton are delayed was due to move last March and the new location is Pontefract when it moves to WH Smith.
As per JE's comments above the most bizarre location I can think of that is still on the branch finder is 136 Southwark Bridge Road this is a small supermarket that never had SSK's but used to service the now closed Tudor Street Wincor's before control moved to Farringdon.
Also what is not now published is details of the new franchisee (ZCO Ltd as an example) but the branch finder is still been updated with new offices (although not all) e.g. Strand is on there that took over from Trafalgar Square.
If Anon would like to contact me for any help I can be acquiring him anything needed I am more than happy to help obviously I wont add my email address here but if Ian agrees I can pass my details to him for forwarding.
Boston, Brent Park, Upper Holloway, St. Johns Wood, Newport all show as having SSK but its questionable if they do.
DeleteInterestingly Haywards Heath’s SSK68 aside from it still having the old menu screens on the card receipts give the branch details for the Franchised Newport branch.
A number of branches SSKs are also showing the details for YESpay International LTD instead of the branches details. The old Yeovil Crown Office’s ssk 67 was on doing this on its last week, so it could have been related to the removal of equipment for the new branch.
Newport definitely does not now the PO has moved.
DeleteWokingham like Sutton has been delayed
ReplyDeleteWokingham
https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/wokingham-rg40-1aa-008939/results/wokinghamrg401aa-informationletter.pdf
Sutton
https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/sutton-sm1-1dx-019013/results/suttonsm11dx-informationletter.pdf
Other SSK offices
Oakworth (co-op 1ssk)
Saltash (Mcolls 1ssk)
Summertown (co-op 1ssk)
Camden, London (UOE 3ssk)
Central Village, Liverpool
Regent Street St. James's,London (Rymans 3ssk)
West End, Glasgow (3ssk)
Thank you for those additional branches and for Wokingham postponement that saves me a wasted trip !!!!!
ReplyDeleteUpdate Camden has 4 ssk not 3 and as per the comment above some also used the old menu screens as did 1 kiosk at Reading.
St Johns Wood I can confirm has no SSK, Brent Park I have not visited for a while to check current position, Boston was I am told considered for them some time ago but there is insufficient floor space I cannot confirm the others.
I knew of Summertown according to staff has been operational since June 2018 and Camden 29th March 2019 do you know of the other start dates when kiosks were installed.
Malcolm
Oakworth
DeleteDecember 2018/January 2019 (session 3897 13/03/19)
Saltash
August +/- a month (Session 7108 9/5/19)
Mcolls Retail Group publication (Half Yearly Report July 2018) ‘We are also trialling self-service units in a small number of our Post Offices’
Central Village, Liverpool
February/March 2019 (session 800 5/03/19)
Regent Street St. James's, London (Rymans 3ssk)
March I believe, to compensate for the closure of Trafalgar Square
West End, Glasgow
Unsure
3ssk should have been ??? ssk, my predictive text decided I meant 3ssk
Update from today
DeleteRegent Street St James has 4 kiosks and kiosks went live 7th January 2019 (thank you to Nina very helpful member of staff)for reference code is 054011, stock probably came from Trafalgar Square as 2nd class is mixture of MA12 and MA13
Blackfriars Road has finally had the 2 SSK removed although they were never used since the branch was franchised on 19th March 2018 and the promised refurb is yet to happen.
Ealing has moved to its new location and has 3 SSK the branch code remains the same 139006 and the session number has not been reset.
Comments on Google suggest Glasgow kiosk installed late 2018 with Liverpool early 2019.
Malcolm
Apologies hit publish to early Sutton is now live as from the 23rd May
DeleteMalcolm
027026 Barkingside has two machines
ReplyDeletessk 67 (Card only) - session 001999 on 3/06/19
ssk 68 (card and cash) - didn’t check
496420 Central Village (Liverpool) has one machine
ssk67 (cash and card) - session 002850 on 4/06/19
I can fill in more details on Barkingside
Deletek67 session 1760, k68 session 3811 both dated 21st May.
Question here is did the present k67 replace an older cash kiosk or was it an addition at a later date.
Malcolm
Wokingham’s new date for the closure of the Crown office is19 June 2019, Franchise opens 20 June 2019
ReplyDeletehttps://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/wokingham-rg40-1aa-008939/results/wokinghamrg401aa-decision.pdf
Pontefract Crown will close 31 July 2019, Franchise with 2 SSK opens 1 August 2019
https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/pontefract-wf8-1lu-029323/results/pontefractwf81lu-decision.pdf
Can someone help me with an office code an example has been found in kilo ware.
ReplyDeleteThe code is 390460, the last 3 digits gives the area the branch is in therefore the 4 indicates the NW of England.
It is a Machin50 stamp from k68 with a session number of 000373.
First thought this may have been the new WH Smith branch at Wigan which should end with 406 and someone has entered this incorrectly but this is highly unlikely to have reached 373 in 7 days usage including the time to put it up on eBay.
Does anyone have the new code for Wigan for reference as yet to visit there and also what is in the kiosks.
Codes from yesterdays changes are
Grantham 237210, Solihull 584246 and Farnham 148900 all are Machin except the 1st class at Grantham is greenery (using old stock from Crown branch)
Malcolm
I saw a large label from SSK67 with 81 as the label number dated 7/06/19 with the same FAD, and thought the same, that it came from the new Wigan office.
DeleteWhilst it could be an error in imputing the FAD code, two machines with the same code may suggest another possibility, ###458 & ###459 are non-geographical areas, so it would not be too difficult to imagine that ###460 is of the same ilk.
ReplyDeleteTried to do a bit of research into code on consultation hub, Hurst Green noted as 385458.
ReplyDeleteFound branch at https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/hurst-green-tn19-7pl-385458/
As this as you say is a non geographic area this has got to be an error as well on the website as it does not follow the geographic number series.
Am I right in assuming as k67 is the master kiosk and all others are slave units that anything such as the FAD code programmed into k67 would be replicated into the other kiosks.
Regards
Malcolm
An update to the FAD codes of the last few weeks gives these
ReplyDeleteWigan 390460 this is now confirmed by visit both kiosks Machin50
Wokingham 269939 both kiosks Poppy
Trowbridge 348504 Machin although only k67 card only kiosk is working, k68 and k69 OOS due to comms problem
Oakworth above is confirmed as 309306 and is Machin.
Malcolm
Malcolm, can you check Wigan - they should end 406 not 460?
DeleteIan
DeleteThe Wigan code is correct, a possible explanation is given in my posting on the 20th July.
Malcolm
Another location is Scotland
ReplyDelete371832 Clydebank
Unit 27 Clydebank Shopping Centre, Sylvania Way, Clydebank, Dunbartonshire, G81 2RR
DP
Thank you DP was not aware of this location would I be right in assuming 1 kiosk only and do you know what stamps are in the kiosk.
DeleteLooking on Google it is a Premier store.
Filling in the codes for recent transfers I have
Dartford 175014 (Machin50) I do not know the details of Chester as yet to visit does anyone know this.
Firm dates recently announced are St Helens 25th July and Worthing 22nd August.
Huddersfield should be tomorrow as the usual date is a Thursday although the local paper has it down as Wednesday the 4th ????? can anyone confirm.
Also new to the list are Exeter and Walsall both due October time.
Malcolm
Sorry, only saw the receipt on an internet sales site that was posted as proof of postage, so I’m unaware of what was loaded in the machine. Given that lack of info provided by Post Office, this may be the only way a truer list of locations is established and how far these machines have spread. I’ve seen many more NCR receipts from Post Office SSKs that I’ve not been able to establish their location due to either no postcode or very incomplete postcode being visible.
ReplyDeleteAs you saw in the list I posted above, a location was known, and as no reference was made about the others, I’m guessing that they weren’t known (I’ve had trouble phrasing that sentence so that it’s general and not aimed directly at any individual, if I’ve still phrased it wrongly and caused offence, I apologises), so an exchange of information is beneficial to those who are still interested in these machines and what they produce.
And on that subject Worthing now has a date set, with the Crown closing 21/08/19 with the Franchise opening on 22/8/19 (assuming they have the staff, two offices in Surrey are using WHSmith staff who have rudimentary training on how to use the machines to oversee them. Ashford has a button on ssk68 to summon staff for assistance)
https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/worthing-counter-bn11-1aa-009908/results/worthingcounterbn111aa-decision.pdf
I remember back to when the NCR machines were being installed into Crown offices there were one or to comments with false information, I certainly don’t want to do that.
Its Ian’s blog and our comments are approved at his discretion. It may be that a monthly round up post with comments, as with the slogan machine cancels is the way forward, or we have to send proof to Ian before he will approve a comment with a new location.
DP
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DeleteThanks DP.
DeleteOne problem is that this is a level that is not of primary interest to me, but I know that it interests others. There are a number of out-of-date lists on the web - the Modern British Philatelic Circle has one in their Members' area but it is (acknowledged to be) over a year behind because of lack of reliable information.
The other point is that information on closed/previous locations should not be removed simply to provide a CURRENT list. A current list would not help people looking at Post and Go - and indeed Horizon* - labels/covers from previous years. (* Of course Horizon would be a much bigger list!)
It obviously needs some sort of collaborative effort, probably on Google Sheets or suchlike, that the owner (say me) would allow obviously knowledgeable people (say you! and a few others) to update, thus meaning that currency was not reliant on one person. It would need to show
NUMBER LOCATION POSTCODE KIOSKS START DATE END DATE COMMENTS
Happy to consider this sometime, and any other solutions. It could be linked from the blog in the menus on the right.
Thanks DP for your much appreciated reply and help, for info it has now been confirmed there is 1 kiosk at Clydebank this been installed about 2 months ago but not the kiosks contents.
DeleteJust to clarify I was not speculating on Chester this moved to WH Smith, 5-7 Foregate Street with the same 2 kiosks on the 27th June I was only asking if anyone knew the new FAD code for our list as it has not been visited as yet.
I totally agree with you about giving out false information and it was me who appealed on that previous thread for it to stop after a wasted trip to Lyndhurst IIRC.
Would much appreciate any help Ian could be on hosting a list of offices both old and new that could be properly updated as an historical record this type of list always needs to be a collaborative effort to keep the record as up to date as possible.
Malcolm
The FAD for Chester appears to be 100615
DeleteI’ve seen receipts for the New Huddersfield office, from SSK 70 (session 830 on 17/07/19), alas no FAD on the receipt (the Post Office consultation stated two SSKs)
Has anyone got the FAD for Saltash yet?
Other than the ‘planned’ Post Office changes and the offices listed in previous comments are there any other offices that have SSK?
I can confirm the code for Chester is 100615, this along with Wigan may be a new departure in allocating new branches a different branch code under the previous system it would have been 100614, Chester is 17 stock Machin the kiosks using the old software version.
DeletePost Office consultation is once again in error for Huddersfield there are 4 kiosks the code is 356320 stock is Machin 1st class 18 and 2nd class 17 opened 5th July.
Saltash code is 259539 16 1st and 17 stock Machins, this according to reply from McColls is there only branch at the moment with NCR.
Further to my note above Clydebank is confirmed as 18 stock greenery 1st and 2nd.
Glasgow West End 721-723 Great Western Road code 377832 has 17 stock Machins kiosks installed 13/11/18.
A note enclosed from them also confirms their other branch at Glasgow Charing Cross 533 Sauchiehall Street also has kiosk(s) looking on the branch finder the code there would be 196832 I will be writing away Monday to confirm kiosks and contents and report back.
2 further branches are out to consultation to ZCO Ltd from October retaining there 3 kiosks each at the same location these are Faversham and Barnsley so should be no change to code at this stage but they are both to be refurbished in 2020 so could change at that point as did Sydenham.
I think this is now up to date according to my records but of course someone will always know more.
Malcolm
I can now confirm Glasgow Charing Cross at 533 Sauchiehall Street is 196832 they have 17 stock Machins and one kiosk that was installed 20th November 2018, both Glasgow branches are confirmed as 1 kiosk only and although not noted in the reply I suspect card only kiosks.
DeleteA further office has been added to the franchise list at Sittingbourne same details as those above at Faversham and Barnsley.
One office I left off my list by mistake is Bath with 5 kiosks k70 and k71 been card only with k67 and k68 using the old menu code is 347504
A mixture of Machin stock with 1st class been MA15 in k68 to k70 with 16 stock in k67 and k71 whilst the 2nd class is 14 stock k69 and k71, 16 stock k67 and k68 with k70 been 17 stock.
Details of todays transfer at St Helens not yet to hand.
Malcolm
Judging by the receipt (session 9910- 25/07/19 payment receipt/proof of posting and card receipt all being attacked by a gap in the cutter) I’ve just seen for Great Western Road, it does appear to be a card only machine.
DeleteJohn McCallum has set up a Facebook page called ATM Informer (after the much lamented publication) but its not updated regularly due to his other commitments. I wonder if that would be a useful for a for exchanging information? You also have the Stuart Leigh checklists linked to from the blog and Roy Sanderson's listings of offices (from the old ATM Informer site) I note he used to post on here but haven't seen anything for a while. I have gotten into the habit of popping in to any Co-Op's or McColls displaying a Post Office sign - just in case!
DeleteAgreed John's ATM Informer was a superb publication to which I regularly contributed usage figures.
DeleteI am in regular contact with Roy Sanderson so many of my comments are a collaborative effort and he is still active in producing his lists updated when new information comes to light so many thanks to all who are contributing.
I have his latest sheets but would not want to publish it without his permission.
In the case of popping into McColls to check for any NCR do not forget Martins newsagents are also part of the same group.
Will be visiting Pontefract WH Smith Monday so will post details on my return.
Malcolm
Is it possible to have the latest list of known SSK locations shared anywhere?
DeleteNot until somebody compiles it....
DeleteLooks like Malcolm may be best placed to ask if Roy's list can be shared?
DeleteA new type of machine or changes to SSKs and Horizon?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.onepostoffice.co.uk/secure/latest-news/our-products/technology-trial-launches-to-meet-huge-growth-in-demand-for-parcels/
Another new SSK location
ReplyDelete062937 Emsworth
Southern Co-op, 2 High Street, Emsworth, Hampshire, PO10 7AW
(session 2750 28/7/19 receipt looks as if it’s from a card only machine)
Big thanks to those who have brought to our attention new and relocated SSK equipped Post Offices.
ReplyDeleteI echo the comments about accuracy being of importance, and how Ian has expressed his wishes details of new offices to be listed, which I suspect most would expect as best practice.
I however hope this does not deter any new offices from being brought to the readerships attention because they may lack branch codes, or know the full address (Post Office Branch Finder does provide this information). It has been demonstrated that the earlier listing have been updated by others, Malcom deserve a special mention for his efforts in filling in the gaps and expanding the original comments.
There has been a good discussion about what to collect, something which is personal to each of us. The breakdown of the OV prices for mint examples was thought provoking, as was Ian’s comment about the NVI examples.
Two things I would add to those comments is that within the non-tracked OV labels there two types, those which I suspect are most commonly collected are those which don’t carry the area part of the postcode similar to the DPs images for the large letter versions which Ian added to the initial post and those labels which were produced with a proof of postage requested by the sender as illustrated by the image in Ian’s original post.
I totally agree with Ian’s comments about the NVI labels. Though just a basic collection of a 1st class example of each label, you still have the differences produced by each type of machine, in Post Offices you have the Wincor-Nixdorf and NCR machines (I’m excluding the machines introduces as part of the comparative trial), but would suggest that two fonts, the font error and data string gap examples also be worth considering as part of a basic collection, whilst they had limited availability, they did occur in more than one office.
The bureau has produced three types in their packs, those printed at the time the base stock was produced (1st Machin pack and the four Birds packs), those produced on Hytech machines and those produced on the RM series 2 (or IAR as most would recognise them) machines.
Would you include the OV labels from the packs that were produced, 11 labels (5 with kg, 5 with KG and the 97p on MA13 stock) some will no doubt consider the errors produced by/for by the bureau for collection purposes as modern classics. I can see an argument for this, but not so for the wrong labels used for exhibition/events, then I don’t really get the point of those produced at exhibition/events in any case, but as they say, each to their own.
"The bureau has produced three types in their packs, those printed at the time the base stock was produced (1st Machin pack and the four Birds packs), those produced on Hytech machines and those produced on the RM series 2 (or IAR as most would recognise them) machines."
DeleteDon't forget that the Union Flag and one of the Flowers packs also exists in two types, the second not announced.
https://blog.norphil.co.uk/2015/02/union-flag-post-and-go-faststamp-pack.html
Been to Emsworth today and can confirm 1 card only kiosk with 17 stock Machins.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the lady there kiosk was installed on the 8th April when the post office moved in.
Session number today 2815 so seems fairly well used.
St Helens moved as planned on the 25th July code is 331434 2 cash kiosks with unknown date code Machins the address is Church Square Shopping Centre, 21 Lagrange Arcade, St Helens, Merseyside
Malcolm
Between 12:58 and 16:45 only four transactions took place on 23 September 2019. The weather was atrocious and ‘Fred’ as they call the machine was having problems with the 2nd class printer jamming. The print from the 1st class (on MA16 stock) was indented to the right as with these 2nd class examples illustrated in this post https://blog.norphil.co.uk/2015/02/more-post-and-go-roundup-more-oddities.html
DeleteTidying up a couple of points from previous posts.
ReplyDeleteI can now confirm St Helens Machins are 1st class MA16 and 2nd CL17S in both kiosks.
The other from a much earlier posting Brent Park Tesco does not have any SSK.
Malcolm
Hello
ReplyDeleteI’ve come across an NRC produced Horizon style label with a branch code of 287337.
Is this from the Franchised Scarborough Post Office or has it come from another office?
Mike
It is Scarborough Franchised
Delete287337 Scarborough
WHSmith, 106-107 Westborough, Scarborough, YO11 1LD
As promised been to Pontefract today details are 2 kiosks k67 cash although today only operating in card mode and k68 card only but OOS awaiting engineers visit today.
Deletek67 is 1st Machin R18YAL and 2nd CL17S, I was told k68 also has Machin in so am assuming same code.
Pontefract
WH Smith
37-39 Market Place
Pontefract
WF8 1AG
FAD is 683323
Malcolm
It is Scarborough.
ReplyDeleteTwo new NCR locations identified today they are both in branches of Mc'Colls and each have 1 card only kiosk.
ReplyDeleteFaringdon
22 Market Place
Faringdon
Oxfordshire SN7 7HU
FAD 190548
Machins 1st and 2nd 17 stock operational 3 months so reckoned May 2019
and
Town Street
30 High Street
Shepton Mallet
Somerset
BA4 5AN
FAD 175040
Machins 1st 18 stock and 2nd 17 stock operational July 2019
Official branch name of Town Street not Shepton Mallet probably in honour of the old Crown branch location !!!!!
My apologies a typo crept in on my last post Shepton Mallet FAD code is 170540 and not 175040
ReplyDeleteMalcolm
Town Street's Fad is 170504
ReplyDeleteThe Current Branch opened - November 2017, it was previously at 8 Town Street, it kept both it's FAD and branch name, as same operator
My apologies you are correct 170504.
DeleteThanks for the explanation of Town Street.
My colleague Roy S who visited says he had a senior moment in passing it on (insert smiley
Malcolm
It’s all too easy too easy to get confused when transcribing seven digit numbers to the six digit ones were more used to. I wonder if that’s what happened with Wigan and Chester or have they run out of available number to use?
DeleteHave any of the Manchester offices gained SSKs as a result of the closure of the Mount Street Crown Office?
ReplyDeleteIn addition to Faversham and Barnsley mentioned above for franchise to ZCO in October from the same premises the following have also been added
ReplyDeleteSittingbourne in October followed in November by Battersea, Derby, Petersfield, Sevenoaks, Tunbridge Wells and Wandsworth.
Of these only Derby, Sevenoaks and Sittingbourne are due a refurbishment in 2020 so a possible change of FAD then as happened at Sydenham.
Old Street is proposed to move a few doors down to the Co-op at 185 Old Street due January 2020 with the same 4 SSK and details of Worthing that transferred to WH Smith on the 22nd August is
Worthing
15 South Street
Worthing
West Sussex
BN11 3AP
The same 2 SSK kiosks with 18 stock 1st Machin and 17 stock 2nd Machin.
I can confirm the codes mentioned above for Chester and Wigan are correct an example from each is pictured on the link below
https://i.postimg.cc/Gpd83btg/IMG-20190820-0002-NEW.jpg
Not aware of any new SSK offices after Mount Street closed but there was a rumour from a while back that Spring Gardens may gain a kiosk, this was from before news of Mount Street emerged.
I stress this is only a rumour with no concrete evidence.
Malcolm
My apologies for some reason I omitted Worthing FAD it is 131908
ReplyDeleteMalcolm
ReplyDeleteTwo further McColl's branches now have 1 cash NCR these are Oakham with Machin 17 stock and Surbiton 1st 16 and 2nd 17 stock Machins.
Oakham according to staff was installed last May whilst Surbiton was July details are
Oakham
30-32 High Street
Oakham
Rutland
LE15 6AL
FAD 504217
and
Surbiton
2-3 Victoria Road
Surbiton
Surrey
KT6 4JU
FAD 171023
Date for Exeter move to WH Smith is now confirmed as 24th October to the Guildhall shopping centre with Bedford Street closing the day before the new branch is scheduled for 5 NCR
Malcolm (sorry, deleted the post on my phone so reposted under my name)
Ian thanks for reposting.
ReplyDeleteI have had it confirmed that Spring Gardens has not had an increase in the number of kiosks following the closure of Mount Street (post above refers)
Malcolm
014340 – Barnsley S70-1AA and 010941 - Faversham ME13 8AA Crown Offices closed on 23 October 2019, with ZCO taking over operation from 24 October 2019.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/barnsley-s70-1aa-014340/results/barnsleys701aa-informationposter.pdf
https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/faversham-me13-8aa-010941/results/favershamme138aa-informationleaflet.pdf
010242 Walsall WS1 1AA
ReplyDeleteCrown Office to close on 9 October 2019, with the Franchised Office opening on 10 October 2019
https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/walsall-ws1-1aa-010242/results/walsallws11aa-decision.pdf
007941 Sittingbourne ME10 4AA
ReplyDeleteCrown Office to close on 30 October 2019, with the Franchised Office opening on 31 October 2019
https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/sittingbourne-me10-4aa-007941/results/sittingbourneme104aa-informationposter.pdf
Has the London Road, Southampton Post Office got SSK? Saw a Horizon receipt from 19/09/19 with the transaction number reset.
ReplyDeleteOne further office with 1 cash NCR is Haslemere, unfortunately at the moment the kiosk is OOS awaiting an engineer visit but the details are
ReplyDeleteHaslemere
3 West Street
Haslemere
Surrey
GU27 2AF
FAD 167923
This is the former Crown Office building that has been very well restored and opened on the 21st August although the kiosk was not installed until 9th September.
Darlington moved to WH Smith on the 19th September as yet I do not have full details but supposedly 4 kiosks and is located at
WH Smith
37B Cornmill Shopping Centre
Priestgate
Darlington
County Durham
DL1 1LS
FAD according to branch finder is 415309
Malcolm
Receipt confirms FAD (415309X for those who want the 7 digit number)
DeleteSession 688 4.10.19 for SSK 69
If anyone doesn’t know, it this version of Branch finder that shows the FAD in the address bar
ReplyDeletehttps://www.postoffice.co.uk/all-locations
As an example, the detail for Norwich showing the FAD (seven digit FAD shown)
https://www.postoffice.co.uk/branchfinder2/5581362/norwich
004948 - Sevenoaks TN13 1AA
ReplyDeleteCrown Office closes 6 November 2019 with the Franchise Office opening 7 November 2019
A date has now been set for the long postponed move of Oldham it will now open at the new premises on the 7th November.
ReplyDeleteWH Smith
2 The Shopping Centre
Town Square
Oldham
OL1 1XF
To retain 3 SSK
Malcolm
Just to update Haslemere above the kiosk is now back in service as from the 3rd October after engineers visit.
ReplyDeleteMachins R18YAL 1st class and CL17S 2nd class.
A big thank you to Andrew and all the staff there for keeping me informed if only all offices could be run this way.
Malcolm
Just to update Darlington I now have details of stock in the kiosks all are Machin and are made up of a mixture of date codes as follows 1st followed by 2nd class.
ReplyDeletek67 15/17 stock
k68 16 stock
k69 14/16 stock and
k70 16/14 stock
I will be going to Walsall on Saturday so shall post details on return.
Malcolm
Details of Walsall are
DeleteWalsall
71-75 Park Street
Walsall
West Midlands
WS1 1NW
FAD 283242
On Saturday only k68 was working with Machins R17YAL and MA12
Malcolm
Charing Cross (196832 Machin ‘17’ for both 1st and 2nd) and Clydebank (371832 1st Machin ‘17’ and 2nd Winter Greenery ‘18’) have the SSKs at the retail counter, West End (377832 1st Machin ‘18’ and 2nd Machin ‘17’) has the SSK with the Post Office counter.
ReplyDeleteClydebank is the traditional type (cash and card) whilst Charing Cross and West End are card only
Strangely the Clydebank SSK would accept a Bank of England £10 note but not a Scottish £10 note.
Thanks Anon for detailed update on these offices.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know what is presently in the kiosks at Perth, Plympton, St Budeaux, Keighley and Andover.
Malcolm
Apologies if this is not linked to an earlier comment. I tried to authorise it from my phone and rejected it by mistake (fat fingers). So I have copied it from the moderation email.
DeleteMore Franchising results (in date order):-
015207 Derby City DE1 1SD
Crown Office closes 13 November 2019 at 16:00 with the franchised office opening 14 November 2019
023001 Wandsworth SW18 4LD
Crown Office closes 19 November 2019 at 16:00 with the franchised office opening 20 November 2019
019001 Battersea SW11 1AB
Crown Office closes 20 November 2019 at 16:00 with the franchised office opening 21 November 2019
003948 Five Ways TN1 2AD
Crown Office closes 20 November 2019 at 16:00 with the franchised office opening 21 November 2019
015937 Petersfield GU32 3HG
Crown Office closes 21 November 2019 at 16:00 with the franchised office opening 22 November 2019
Given that ZCO have been quite active in acquiring franchised offices which have SSKs, I wonder if the other offices that they have taken over (or are due to 010548 Melksham SN12 6LU) will gain SSKs (010555 Redruth TR15 2AA, 005113 Newmarket CB8 8JJ, 018614 Mold CH7 1AA, 002112 Thetford IP24 2AA, 014614 Holywell CH8 7AA & 006604 Llangefni LL77 7DY).
259539 Saltash
ReplyDelete1st class Machin ‘17’ 2nc class Machin ‘17’
262539 St Budeaux
SSK Trial ended Aug/Sep 2019 – Machine removed
019539 Plympton
SSK Trial ended Aug/Sep 2019 – Machine removed
019539 Plymouth
67, 68 & 69 Poppy ‘17’
67 2nd class printed on 1st Machin ‘16’
68 & 69 Winter Greenery ‘18’
The session numbers I have for Plympton are 3042 on 20/10/18 and 10844 on 1/06/19
DeleteMany thanks for this update on SW offices, therefore if my records are correct St. Budeaux and Plympton never issued Machins.
ReplyDeleteOn the list of offices transferring to ZCO mentioned above Thetford is been checked next week with Newmarket 14th November transfer and Mold 7th November transfer following shortly afterwards.
At present have no spotters for Llangefni 26th September, Holywell 25th September, Redruth 20th November and Melksham due January 2020
Malcolm
Plympton had Machin CL17S in the 2nd Class Reel on 20/2/19 (Poppy R18YAL in 1st)
ReplyDeleteFaringdon had Machin R17YAL and CL17S yesterday 24/10/19.
Trevor
DeleteMany thanks for confirming 2nd Machins were at Plympton missed those for my collection.
Thetford I can confirm does not have NCR, Exeter transferred to WH Smith 34-35 Guildhall shopping centre still 5 kiosks FAD is 619519 all are Machin.
Poplar is another office going to a retail partner from same premises due January 2020.
Malcolm
Knutsford 172401 has had the NCR kiosk removed date unknown at present.
ReplyDeleteThat along with Plympton and St Budeaux now make 3 known locations recently where the kiosk has been withdrawn is there a usage review taking place.
Malcolm
All Co-Ops I believe, not sure if that is significant?
DeleteThe trial in Co-op owned and run stores was only intended to run for 12-24 months. Those in franchises and affiliated society run stores are different. One of the arguments for not putting these details on branch finder.
ReplyDeleteLets provide a service, not promote it and then say it wasn't a success. Hmmmm not sure on that one. The machines are always next to a counter where one 'team' member has to do their counter work as well as keep a weather eye on anyone using the kiosk, whereas in a 'traditional office' the machines have there own minder. Perhaps this is the reason why its not much of a success in stores?
DeleteI've had a report by email that Old Street in London is "closing the branch in mid-January and moving to the nearby Co-op. Not sure what’s happening to P&G as usually a very busy office with queuing".
ReplyDeleteI haven't checked whether this is reported in earlier comments, but as the Co-op is involved it will be interesting to see what happens.
The decision letter here indicates that four kiosks will be provided, the same as today
Deletehttps://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/old-street-ec1v-9qn-028003/results/oldstreetec1v9qn-informationletter.pdf
The current branch will close at 18:00 on Wednesday 29 January 2020, with the new branch opening at 09:00 on Thursday 30 January 2020.
Updating a couple of earlier posts
ReplyDeleteOldham address is WH Smith, 2 Town Square Shopping Centre, Oldham, Lancashire OL1 1XF code is 3104249.
On the first day only k69 was working with Machins an engineer working on the other two.
I can also confirm no NCR at Mold.
Malcolm
I can confirm the removal of another kiosk 246007 at Nisa Local, 85-87 High Street, South Norwood, London SE25.
ReplyDeleteThis I was told was due to be withdrawn in late October but can confirm by visit had gone by yesterday the 29th November.
This I was told was due to a branch request from the staff for it to be removed.
Sorry I cannot be more specific to the actual date.
Malcolm
A New Year and more Crown Office Closures
ReplyDelete011136 Diss (IP22 4AA) Franchised in April 2020 to ZCO Ltd
009432 Stockport (SK1 1QF) Franchised in June 2020 to ??? (3 SSKs)
002113 Haverhill (CB9 8AB) Franchised in April 2020 to ZCO Ltd
006940 Dorking (RH4 1SA) Franchised in April 2020 to ZCO Ltd (2 SSKs)
007824 Frederick Street ( EH2 1EY) Franchised in April 2020 to independent franchise partner Chris Allan (2 SSKs)
Another week and more Crowns go
ReplyDelete007023 New Malden (KT3 4ER) Franchised in April 2020 to ZCO Ltd with 2 SSKs
010511 Keynsham (BS31 1DY) Franchised in April 2020 to ZCO Ltd
017632 Abergavenny (NP7 5EB) Franchised in April 2020 to ZCO Ltd
A New Year and a new SSK location
ReplyDelete3413403 Creswell
3 Elmton Road, Creswell, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, S80 4HD
Judging by the receipt it’s a card only machine (session 1596 on 16/01/20)
Thanks Anon visited today and can confirm 1 card only kiosk MA16 and CL17S Machins.
DeleteTodays session number is 1633 and lady there confirmed kiosk installed last August.
Malcolm
The Franchised Old Streets Branch’s details
ReplyDelete106003 Old Street Post Office
Co-op, 185 - 187 Old Street, London, EC1V 9NP
The kiosks at Old Street are 4 card only kiosks the 2nd class are all CL19S Greenery whilst the 1st class is Machin R18YAL in k67 - k69 whilst k70 has R19YAL.
DeleteI can see the very tight area these kiosks are located in causing problems when the office gets busy at peak times.
Regards
Malcolm
A new code has been found on an eBay kiloware lot that went live today.
DeleteThe code is 281323 which puts it somewhere in the Leeds, Wakefield, Pontefract area of Yorkshire.
The session number is 10155 so kiosk would have been there for a while does anyone have any idea where it is, I have been having a few guesses on the branch finder site but no luck so far.
Regards
Malcolm
Can now answer my own question but thanks to JE for coming up with it.
ReplyDeleteMoortown
Co op, 399 Harrogate Road, Moortown, Leeds, W Yorkshire LS17 6DJ
Regards
Malcolm
From receipts seen in the last couple of days, 309306 Oakworth, West Yorkshire (4/2/20) and 403137 Summertown, Oxfordshire (31/1/20) still have their single, card only SSK.
ReplyDeleteThanks Anon do you know what was in the kiosks, these are two offices I need to complete my collection for.
DeleteRegards
Malcolm
Unfortunately photos only showed the proof of posting. As a number of single SSK offices had their machines removed, I thought it might be of use to have recent confirmation that the SSKs were still present.
DeleteIt will be interesting to see where the SSKs located at the former Old Street Crown Post Office go to.
From The Shropshire Star (https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/south-shropshire/tenbury-wells/2020/01/29/harriett-baldwin-mp-opens-new-post-office-in-tenbury-wells/)
ReplyDelete‘Post Office services are offered from a low-screened, open-plan, serving point alongside the retail counter and a self-service machine.’
Admittedly it’s open to interpretation , but 329247 Tenbury Wells MAY be another office.
FAD on Branch Finder is 006247 for said branch, FAD on consultation website is as above, for this and the previous branch.
DeleteI don’t know why but I think that was Worcester Crown Post Office’s FAD. I guess they are recycling FAD numbers after a suitable period of time.
Thanks for finding this, I have phoned the branch and they confirm 1 NCR.
DeleteThe code on the post office website comes up as 006247.
329247 has to refer to the former office located in Market Square that is shown on the consultation hub.
I will pay a visit soon so I will be able to confirm details.
Regards
Malcolm
I visited Tenbury Wells this morning so can confirm the deatails
DeleteTenbury Wells
Spar, 54-64 Teme Street
Tenbury Wells
Worcestershire
WR15 8AA
Code is 006247
I card only kiosk with R19YAL and CL18S Machin.
Regards
Malcolm
The Branch has been temporarily closed due to flooding following the recent storms. Let’s hope they get back up and running as soon as possible.
Deletehttps://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/tenbury-wells-wr15-8aa-006247/supporting_documents/Tenbury%20Wells%20WR15%208AA%20%20Information%20Letter.pdf
According to the Post Office’s ‘One’ website (27/07/20), Tenbury Wells reopened on 10 July 2020, it appears to have retained its SSK.
Deletehttps://www.onepostoffice.co.uk/secure/latest-news/our-branches/mp-visits-tenbury-wells-post-office-spar-store-after-major-flooding-repairs/
And now Great Portland Street loses its Crown Office Status from May 2020
ReplyDelete006009 Great Portland Street
https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/great-portland-street-w1w-7ne-006009/
Can anyone confirm the current situation at Oakworth 309306
ReplyDeleteI had a couple of letters returned to me yesterday with the only explanation on the envelope was "New management found in office"
Malcolm
To update my own post a visit has been made to Oakworth.
DeleteKiosk is still there and dispensing 1st Machin and 2nd greenery so no change there.
It would therefore now seem the management no longer accept postal requests for stamps.
Regards
Malcolm
007824 Frederick Street (EH2 1EY) will close as a Crown Office on 15 April 2020 and re-open as a Franchised Office on 16 April 2020
ReplyDeletehttps://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/frederick-street-eh2-1ey-007824/
Dorking has also had its transfer dates confirmed.
DeleteClosing as a Crown office 16th April re opening 17th April with ZCO
Regards
Malcolm
The Post Office seem to be moving with more haste to replace closed branches
ReplyDeletehttps://www.conveniencestore.co.uk/news/post-office-in-a-box-concept-trialled-to-ensure-community-presence/602901.article
Four of the five offices have Sheffield/South Yorkshire numbers (the other being Poland Street, London), presumably they are controlled by that area.
022340 Rose Hill Street replacing 424614 Conwy Post Office (LL32 8HT)
023340 High Street (84) replacing 066129 High Street Stevenage (SG1 3EH)
024340 Canterbury Road replacing 244313 Newton Hall Post Office (DH1 5LX)
025340 Millers Walk replacing 474136 Fakenham Post Office (NR21 9AP)
The Post Office have a number of ‘ParcelShop’ location which you can collect and return your prepaid online parcels and end in ‘316’ probably no horizon labels will be produced currently, but who knows in the future.
https://www.postoffice.co.uk/parcelshop
102316 ParcelShop Portway Foods (E15 3QJ)
103316 ParcelShop House of Computers (W1T 2EF)
104316 ParcelShop Church Street Library (NW8 8EU)
105316 ParcelShop Kensington Central Library (W8 7RX)
109316 ParcelShop Osbon Pharmacy (SE1 9LP)
110316 ParcelShop Lords at Home Northcote Road (SW11 6PJ)
112316 ParcelShop Lords at Home Hampstead (NW3 6TE)
113316 ParcelShop Lords in Westbourne Grove (W2 5RT)
117316 ParcelShop Queens Park Library (W10 4NE)
119316 ParcelShop Osbon Pharmacy Lambeth Walk (SE11 6EE)
A good number of gaps, so maybe more to come.
And another one
Delete115316 ParcelShop Mobifix (W14 9PP)
Just a little controversy
Deletehttps://www.betterretailing.com/symbol-group-wholesale/post-office/post-office-parcelshop-network-trials-revealed/
024340 Canterbury Road has now become a proper Post Office, same address but with a new FAD and name
Delete222313 Newton Hall Post Office
Core Convenience Store
38 Canterbury Road, Framwellgate Moor, Durham
County Durham, DH1 5PY
According to the consultation letter for Wadebridge, there will be a new SSK, or self-service counter as they call it in Cornwall from September 2020.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/wadebridge-pl27-7ag-271555/supporting_documents/Wadebridge%20PL27%207AG%20%20Proposal%20Letter.pdf
Oh blast, there should have been a , between ‘call it’ & ‘in Cornwall’.
DeleteA new SSK in Wales (session 5000 on 30/04/20)
ReplyDelete516611 St Fagans Road
2 Fairwater Green, St Fagans Road, Cardiff, CF5 3BA
According to the Blakemore Retail staff Magazine (winter 2019/2020) it’s a card only machine.
DeleteTheir website makes reference to two offices having card only SSKs as a trial, their staff magazine makes reference to their Creswell Store as well (mentioned in comments above 16/01/20 & 30/01/20) as St Fagans Road.
Tenbury Wells is also one of their Post Offices, currently closed to flooding earlier this year.
157014 Blackfen still has its solitary SSK (session 29275 19/5/20)
ReplyDeleteThis office (1st to have a single SSK) obviously finds having a single SSK worth their while
For those interested in Horizon labels, there is a new FAD code, ‘501’ used for ‘temporary’ Post Offices. I’ve not come across 200501 – 205501 yet, but as they seem to be sequentially used, there out there somewhere.
ReplyDelete206501 Leam Lane, NE10 8XQ
207501 Maesteg, CF34 9BY
Another temporary Post Office
Delete209501 Wadebridge, PL27 7AQ
I offer up
Delete208501 Yarm
Strickland & Holt, 44 High Street, Yarm, North Yorkshire TS15 9AE
opened 29 June 2020
Wadebridge, closed 3 September at the Town Hall, and reopened at SPAR on 7 September 2020, it remains a ‘temporary’ office for the time being and retains it current FAD (209501)
DeleteUpdating a previous post above on the 12th March the kiosk at Oakworth 309306 has now been withdrawn.
ReplyDeleteDate unknown but has to be post Mid March when last visit made.
Regards
Malcolm
And another one
ReplyDelete211501 Holt, NR25 6BW
Both Wadebridge and Holt opened 26 June 2020
The above should have been under the Wadebridge Post of 27 June 2020
DeleteThere is no SSK yet, but one is expected when the office moves to SPAR later this year.
The Holt Budgens supermarket was destroyed by fire on 20 June taking the PO with it.
Deletehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-53224692
The PO was relocated to Bakers & Larners of Holt owned by the same company.
This must be the one referred to above?
Another pop up Post office
ReplyDelete255501 Chorleywood
Lords Hardware Store, Witton House, 24-38 Lower Road, Chorleywood, Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, WD3 5LD
Opened 5 August 2020
Replacing
066033 Chorleywood Town
35 Lower Road, Chorleywood, Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, WD3 5LQ
Closed 29 January 2019
Another pop up Post office
ReplyDelete217501 Leamington Spa
Town Hall, The Parade, Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, CV32 4AT
Opened 13/8/20
Replacing
537246 Leamington Spa
32 Bath Street, Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, CV31 3AE
Closed 23 June 2020
Three more ‘pop up’/temporary Post Offices
Delete218501 Brechin
The Hardware Store, 30 - 40 St. David Street, Brechin, Angus, DD9 6EQ
Opened - 9 October 2020
Replaced
291820 Brechin
11 Swan Street, Brechin, Angus, DD9 6EE
Closed – 28 September 2020
219501 Prettygate
Prettygate Library, 44 Prettygate Road, Colchester, Essex, CO3 4EQ
Opened - 14 October 2020
Replaced
102116 Prettygate
McColl’s Retail Group, 100 The Commons, Colchester, CO3 4NW
Closed - 23 August 2020
224501 Burghmuir
J G Ross (Bakers) Ltd, Highclere Business Park, Highclere Way, Inverurie, Aberdeenshire, AB51 5QW
Opened - 13 October 2020
Replaced
316801 Burghmuir
Will Chemists, Burghmuir Drive, Inverurie, AB51 4GY
Closed - 27 July 2019
and another pop up office
Delete232501 Mainway
Alkrington Library, 193 Kirkway, Middleton, Manchester
Greater Manchester M24 1LW
opened14 October 2020
replaced
308422 Mainway
McColls, 207 - 209 Kirkway, Middleston, Manchester
Greater Manchester M24 1LW
closed - 24 September 2020
Another pop up office in Devon
Delete230501 Braunton
Unit 4 1A The Square, Braunton, Devon, EX33 2JB
Opened 10 September 202
Replaced
608519 Braunton
23 Caen Street, Braunton, Devon, EX33 1AA
Closed 9 September 2020
Right, back to Self Service Kiosks info
ReplyDelete053946 Burnham (SL1 7JT)
The branch closed on 10 August 2020 for refurbishment.
Time will tell if this branch retains its solitary SSK. The date given for re-opening is 18 September 2020
https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/burnham-sl1-7jt-053946/supporting_documents/Burnham%20SL1%207JT%20%20Temp%20Closure%20Refurb%20Customer%20Letter.pdf
I visited Burnham today, the store is now under the Budgens brand name and retains its kiosk.
DeleteAlthough not in operation today due to networking issues according to hand written notice on kiosk so I could not check what was in the kiosk.
Regards
Malcolm
058006 Hammersmith, W6 0PZ
ReplyDeleteThe branch closed on 8 August 2020, due to the redevelopment of Kings Mall Shopping Centre.
https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/hammersmith-w6-0pz-058006/supporting_documents/Hammersmith%20%20W6%200PZ%20%20Information%20Letter.pdf
Does anyone have any information on any change to the make up of collector strips after the 1st September airmail changes.
ReplyDeleteWith the Europe 100g and Worldwide 20g been combined at £1.70 will we have another dual value stamp in the same way as E20 / W10
Also the Worldwide 100g stamp in its present form will cause confusion with the separate rates for WZ1 and WZ3 at £2.50 and WZ2 at £2.55
Regards
Malcolm
Malcolm - Three new NVI stamps this morning, including the new 'Combi' value you mentioned above. Live at Post Offices and those Museums that are open.
DeleteNow on eBay. Well done Royal Mail!
ReplyDeleteThank you Brian for that.
ReplyDeleteA point to note though is that the 2 new W100 stamps are only available as part of a collector strip and not via the buy stamps menu on NCR kiosks.
Wonder if the same on IAR museum kiosks.
Regards
Malcolm
I was told that it applies to all machines.
DeleteIan answering my own question the IAR kiosks are supplying all stamps via the buy stamps menu.
DeleteAll the naval museums and fleet air are open although some only on certain days of the week.
Although Shakespeare is also open it is unclear if the kiosk is working at present.
Signals and postal museum remain closed at present.
Regards
Malcolm
London today.
ReplyDeleteVictoria 2 out of 3 machines working
Westminster all machines working
Regent St 2 out of 4 working
High Holborn, all machines off
Aldwych all machines off
Strand 2 out of 4 working
Great Portland St all machines off
Baker St all machines off
Paddington all machines working
If I could add to your list Trevor yesterday both Eastcheap and Clapham offices were closed.
ReplyDeleteAdding to your kiosks out of service yesterday was Golders Green, Hampstead, Islington, London Bridge and Houndsditch.
Previously out of service was Battersea, Sydenham and Wealdstone.
Regards
Malcolm
From my observations lately it seems that all the WH Smith branches I've visited have had all their machines operational with plastic screens between each, Robert Dyas appear have switched off every other machine (Strand/Regent St) and the 'real' post office seems to be lagging behind. That said some, but not all, the London offices where they are switched off appear to be difficult to maintain social distancing with others queuing for the counter service rather than a reluctance to spend money on screens which would only separate SSK users. The exception to this was of course Broadway where the layout of the office allows but I was surprised not to see screens between the machines.
DeleteAfter the rate changes, it would be useful if readers could report the content of machines (including year codes) that are in use. I'll add news to a September 15 2020 post to provide as much detail as possible about what is available.
ReplyDeleteThanks,
Ian
One office update today is 281323, Co - op 399 Harrogate Road, Moortown, Leeds, W Yorkshire where the kiosks are switched off due to Covid and will shortly be removed.
ReplyDeleteThis therefore has to be the end of a year long trial period.
Regards
Malcolm
With Covid meaning many kiosks are out of use does anyone know if those at Birmingham Pinfold Street 013201 are in use.
ReplyDeleteI was interested in the 4 card only kiosks located together on the right hand side kiosks 69, 70. 76 and 77 as I still require some stamps from these for my collection.
Regards
Malcolm
Malcolm, when I went there in August only 72 and 73 were in use, that was a lunchtime and I was the only one using them so I guess trade had dropped off significantly, not sure that's much help to you though. 72 had Machin MA16 in 1st and CL17S in 2nd whilst 73 had Machin Anniversary and CL17S respectively. The man with the machines wouldn't switch on any others for me unfortunately!
ReplyDeleteTrevor
A ‘new’ Post and Go location (judging by the session number it’s been active for a while)
ReplyDelete300340 Stocksbridge
Co-op Superstore, Johnson Street, Stocksbridge, Sheffield, South Yorkshire, S36 1BX
SSK 67 Session 14897 on 30 November 2020
Following a visit by a fellow collector kiosk was installed September 2018.
DeleteStamps are 20 Greenery.
Regards
Malcolm
If this one has been active since September 2018, I wonder how many more are out there waiting to be found. I would say the hunt is on, however due to COVID Tier4/Tier3 restriction, Restriction imposed in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, It’s not appropriate and could be seen as an incitement to break the regulations. So for now the hunt carries on online.
DeleteChorley looks set to get a new office with the closure of the WHSmith store, no info from Post Office yet, but local news media have the story. (Birkenhead & Blackpool Post Offices within the WHSmith store will also close, but they don’t have SSKs)
ReplyDeletehttps://www.lep.co.uk/business/search-new-post-office-base-chorley-town-centre-wh-smith-store-closes-3031026
https://www.chorley-guardian.co.uk/business/chorley-post-office-set-relocate-former-greenwoods-shop-3060821
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/major-blow-birkenhead-whsmith-plans-19275279
https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/blackpool-post-office-closure-date-19393105
The letter for Chorley Post Office is now on the Post Office consultation website Blackpool’s letter is also there (no ssks but there for completeness), no doubt we will see more over the next few months.
Deletehttps://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/chorley-pr7-1by-454427-2/
https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/blackpool-fy1-4rt-237405-01/
Could we be getting new self service machines soon?
ReplyDeletehttps://assets.crowncommercial.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/RM6094-Post-Office-Ltd-Next-Generation-Self-Service-Devices-PTME-Webinar_compressed.pdf
The Possibility of more SSK locations
ReplyDeletehttps://www.betterretailing.com/symbol-group-wholesale/post-office/post-office-self-service-machines-kiosk-terminals/
The First paragraph says
DeleteThe Post Office (PO) considered launching a new ‘family’ of self-service devices that could be deployed in ‘standalone’ non-PO locations, before abandoning the project.
Doesn't mean it won't happen some time. The very fact that they were thinking about it is worth remembering.
DeleteYou could say they have already tired it with Tudor Street Post & Go and the recent Parcel Shop trial. Not forgetting the IAR machines in various locations.
DeleteTalking of IAR machines, are they still in delivery offices?
Tudor Street closed when the Wincor kiosks were withdrawn 27th February 2015 whether NCR kiosks could be dumbed down to provide for an unstaffed facility I dont know but that was not the reason for their introduction.
DeleteI did not follow the history of the parcel shop trial but the IAR kiosks have been removed from all delivery office locations.
The problem with Tudor Street was that it was not compliant with the requirements of the ‘Equality Act 2010’ re access (wheelchairs access was an issue) and could not be made compliant, so it was convenient for it to close.
DeleteAnyone know any SSK's operating tomorrow. 1/1/21 for the new rate FDI? All the PO's in the South West are closed (inc WHS Branches) and also McColls in Saltash
ReplyDeleteThe branch I thought may be open was Burnham but that is closed as well.
ReplyDeleteLooks as though first day of availability will be Saturday.
Regards
Malcolm
Surbiton, I think is open
DeleteHastiongs, Eastboure, Colchester ans Harlow had leaflets on their SSSk anouncing revised ‘core’ hours, basically ‘Crown’ hours. I asked if it was just their store and was told it applied to all WHSnith High Street Post Offices.
ReplyDeleteTenbury Well in Spar and Emsworth in Co-op may be open
Nothing on eBay so far for yesterday so I guess even the 'usual suspects' couldn't swing that one!
ReplyDeleteBut Poppies and Mail by Bike (now sold) from today on eBay along with MA19 & MA20 Machins and R20YAL Greenery from one of the usual suspects!
ReplyDeleteTrevor, can you copy this to today’s post on the new rate strips please?
DeleteSouth Woodford E18 1AL – 031002
ReplyDeleteCrown Office planned to close in April 2021 with the loss of its two SSKS
https://www.postofficeviews.co.uk/national-consultation-team/copy-of-copy-of-02-dmb-area-review-closure-poce-te/supporting_documents/South%20Woodford%20E18%201AL%20%20Proposal%20Letter%202%20.pdf
A report in the Ilford Recorder has the closure date as Wednesday 28th April.
DeleteSee https://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news/post-office-confirms-closure-for-george-lane-crown-7861864
Burnham 053946 has had the SSK withdrawn on the 12th March 2021.
ReplyDeleteIt had not been working since at least last November.
Two new offices have recently come to light these are
ReplyDeleteBottesford 1782274
20 High Street
Bottesford
Nottingham
NG13 0AA
1 card only kiosk R19YAL and CL18S Machin installed according to staff January 2020 session 7326 on 27/04/21 and
Cheadle 1614320
2 Old Rectory Gardens
Wilmslow Road
Cheadle
Cheshire
SK8 1BY
Again 1 cash kiosk with 17 stock Machins believed installed late 2018 according to staff session 12787 on 28/04/21
This I think would be about right as an example of CL18S greenery was found in kiloware
Swindon K69 dispensing Machin Anniversary yesterday (5th May 2021)
ReplyDeleteThe Post & Go machine has been withdrawn from Oakham, Rutland which was located inside the McColls Convenience Store. No replacement is expected. Also the post box in the store has been taken away. That means during out of hours PO business times letters etc have to be taken over the road to where there is a post box. During normal times letters have to be handed in over the counter.
ReplyDeleteRegards
Doug
Thanks for the update Doug this is therefore the end of the 2 year trial after install in May 2019.
DeleteI can only add the kiosk was still in place on the 27th April although out of service.
Came across an ebay listing for a 1MP dinged for on undated Union Flag stock with the office FAD 003647 with a session number 024968.
ReplyDeleteGenuine or fake?
Typo for SIGNED for.
DeleteOops… forgot the link
ReplyDeletehttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144077042157?hash=item218ba931ed:g:Cn4AAOSwt-5gyQfW
FAD 003647 is not on my data base as an office with P&G kiosk, and the font does not look correct, more like that used on RM Ser II machines rather than NCR machines as use in Post Offices. Genuine or Fake? - in my opinion Fake
Delete27 July 21 - Harlow has 2 x P&G machines. One is dispensing 2nd class “CL17” and standard Machin “R20”. The other machine has the same second class but the “2017 Machin Anniversary” in the 1st class position.
ReplyDeleteInterestingly those two machines don’t offer the ability to buy the Worldwide Large Letter stamp as an NVI value, however it’s included in the collector’s strip. Other offices offered the Worldwide Large Letter label as a single option.
DeleteAG
Some time ago the problem of a kiosk not allowing the purchase of the Worldwide Large value was noted at Liverpool ONE in at least one kiosk so suspect it may also be occurring at other locations as well.
DeleteAnyone looking for Machin50 at different ends of the country they are at Durham I think in all three kiosks but certainly k67 also about a month ago they were also in both kiosks at Cirencester.
Out of the Four Post Offices visited today, City of London (the two that were operational, Dartford’s 5 SSK and Luton’s 5 SSK all had the option to buy the Worldwide Large Letter as a single item. Borough had all theirs cordoned off.
DeleteFor those who wonder why Non Directly Managed Branches (or Crow Offices as we still call them) don’t have to make a separate payment for their hire (the cost being part of the branch’s operating costs). Franchised and the solitary SSK offices have to pay for them, thereby needing them in revenue generating mode.
AG
AG can I check with you the details of Dartford you have said 5 SSK's according to my records Dartford only has 4 SSK's
DeleteCan you confirm Dartford has gained an SSK.
You are correct; Dartford does only have 4 SSKs. Somehow one of my Luton OV stamp was with my Dartford stamps.
DeleteBy any chance do you know if East Dulwich has got their planned SSKs yet. They were shown on the plans submitted to the local Authority, but each time I’ve visited the Branch, it had yet to be internally remodelled as plans. It is/was planned to be another ‘concept’ branch like Kennington Park.
AG
Thanks for confirmation of Dartford thought I was right about 4 SSK's.
DeleteUnusual thing about this branch kiosks are numbered right to left not unique by any means but rare.
Regarding East Dulwich is this the branch at 74-76 Lordship Lane, Unsure whether this branch is still a Crown Office, I have only visited there once before during the NCR rollout just to see if it had any kiosks, I am not aware of any plans for them to be installed.
Just for reference do you have the local authority planning number these plans were registered under.
A couple of updates
ReplyDelete171023 Surbiton
Machine removed
006940 Dorking
Still has two machines both offering the ‘Worldwide Large’ label.
There was a major faux pas with the original application. The plans submitted and shown on the planning pages of London Borough of Southwark website. They showed security measures in detail that would be applied when the branch changed from a fortress style office to a more open branch. There are single applications in respect of some of the modernisation plans.
DP
The faux pas relates to East Dulwich Post Office.
DeleteThanks for the info DP, Surbiton therefore would be the end of two year trial having been installed July 2019.
DeleteThere were a few more locations that had SSK fitted around this time Faringdon and Shepton Mallett being two examples that could well be up for review.
Also thanks for additional info on East Dulwich.
All the SSKs at Hounslow, Ealing, Great Greenford, Hayes and Uxbridge have the option to buy the Large letter stamps singularly.
ReplyDeleteDP
I wonder if there is anyone out there who can help me get a little nearer to completing my collection of post & go stamps.
ReplyDeleteI collect 1st and 2nd class singles both Machin and pictorial from each kiosk in the country and I am in need of 2 * 1st class Machins from both kiosks k67 and k68 at Perth.
If they happen to be there I also need 2 * 2nd class Pictorials from k68.
Unfortunately Perth is not an office who replies to postal requests and these were not available when I last visited when the Perth stamp show was on probably in 2019.
To their credit many offices do respond to postal requests and seem interested in my collection.
Brighton 11/10/21
ReplyDeleteK67 Machin R20YAL 1st CL18S 2nd
K67 Machin R19YAL 1st CL17S 2nd
K69 Working but just dispensing labels
Bournemouth (Seamoor Road) 12/10/21
Both Kiosks Out of Service
According to a fellow collector who used to live near Bournemouth these kiosks have been out of use since the start of pandemic.
DeleteApart from the Military Museums on 11/11/2021, do we know whether Poppies are going to appear in Post Office branches this year ?
ReplyDeleteUnsure whether they will appear in NCR as a new printing although I am sure some branches may insert them with any unused stock they have.
DeleteOne other upcoming overprint prior to the Remembrance issue at the 5 static sites will be
A002 at the NMRN, where HMS Victory is located, will have a ‘Pop Up’ overprint to mark the Battle of Trafalgar.
Overprint on current Union Flag and Machin = Trafalgar Day
The overprint will run from the 21st to 31st October.
The man in Brighton last Monday (who also covers Heaywards Heath!) told me he hadn't been told anything yet when I asked
DeleteI was told by a fellow collector who lives in Manchester that one of the offices in the Manchester / Liverpool area sorry I cant recall which one that the remaining poppy stock they held was going to be inserted.
DeleteExeter 16/10/21
ReplyDeleteK67 Machin MA16 1st MA14 2nd
K68 Machin R18YAL 1st CL18S 2nd
K69 Machin R18YAL 1st CL17S 2nd
K70 Machin R18YAL 1st CL16S 2nd
K71 Machin R18YAL 1st CL17S 2nd
Three Offices from 18 October 2021
ReplyDelete584246 Solihull WHS
SSK67 machine not working properly
SSK68 1st class Machin MA19 - 2nd Machin CL17S
SSK69 1st class Machin MA16 - 2nd class ?? Machine had problems with 2nd class printer
SSK70 machine not working properly
422205 Coventry WHS
SSK67 1st class Machin R18YAL - 2nd class Machin CL16S
SSK68 1st class Machin R20YAL - 2nd class Machin CL19S
SSK69 1st class Machin R18YAL - 2nd class Machin CL18S
153641 Shrewsbury WHS
SSK 67 1st class Machin R20YAL - 2nd class Machin CL17S
SSK 68 1st class Machin R20YAL - 2nd class Machin CL19S
2nd class printer cuts randomly - sometimes cut bottom of stamp high, sometimes just trims sometimes normal
DP