Wednesday, 18 October 2017

Lest We Forget Poppy re-use

 
As usual at this time of the year, the self-adhesive Lest We Forget Poppy will be on sale at Post
Office branches (from 24 October), and the Post and Go Poppy stamp will be in use again, though not from the same date at all locations.  A new printing with R17YAL** (thanks Frank) code has already been offered for sale on eBay.

Post and Go details
Post Office branches and Royal Mail Enquiry Offices should have the Poppy stamp replacing the Union Flag from Tuesday 24 October.
** Comments include information that the Museum and Enquiry Office machines have 2015 printings and the small rolls for these machines have NOT been printed with R17YAL code.

Museum sites will have the following changes:
(My apologies that this table may not show fully on mobile devices.  On iPhone, rotate to horizontal, and scroll right. iPad uses the web format, and data is not visible.   The end date for Museums is 19 November and for Enquiry Offices and BFPO, 23 November.)

A001
British Postal Museum †
Poppy Stamp replaces Machin 1st on 24th October
until 23/11/2017
A002
Royal Navy Museum
20 October: Poppy Stamp replaces Machin;
Union Flag  ONLY - Trafalgar Day inscription
until 19/11/2017
A003
Fleet Air Arm Museum
Poppy Stamp replaces Union Flag on 20th October
until 19/11/2017
A004
Submarine Museum
Poppy Stamp replaces Union Flag on 20th October
until 19/11/2017
A005
East Anglian Railway Mus. ≠
No change.
n/a
A006
HMS Trincomalee
20 October Poppy Stamp replaces Union Flag; “HMS Trincomalee”  replaced by “12th Oct 1817” on Machins
until 19/11/2017
A007
RN Explosion Museum
20 October Poppy Stamp replaces Machin;
Union Flag  ONLY - Trafalgar Day inscription
until 19/11/2017
A009
Shakespeare Trust
No change.
n/a
A010
Steam GWR
No change
n/a
A011
Royal Corps of Signals
Poppy Stamp replaces Union Flag on 20th October and White Helmets inscription and logo ends
Until 19/11/2017
M001
BFPO-HQ
Poppy Stamp replaces Union Flag on 24th October
until 23/11/2017
M002
Mount Pleasant
Poppy Stamp replaces Union Flag on 24th October
until 23/11/2017
M003
Enquiry Office Bradford
Poppy Stamp replaces Union Flag on 24th October
until 23/11/2017
M004
Enquiry Office Kingston
Poppy Stamp replaces Union Flag on 24th October
until 23/11/2017
M005
Enquiry Office Windsor §
Poppy Stamp replaces Union Flag on 24th October
until 23/11/2017
M006
Enquiry Office Doncaster*
Poppy Stamp replaces Union Flag on 24th October
until 23/11/2017
M011
BFPO-Abbey Wood
Poppy Stamp replaces Union Flag on 24th October
until 23/11/2017

RM seem to have forgotten machine M010 at Norwich Enquiry Office: we must assume that if anybody wants to use it they will add the Poppy stamps. 

† - The Postal Museum has confirmed that this will be for all values.
§ - Not Doncaster as in RM advice.
* - Not Croydon as in RM advice.
≠ - Yes, having been there I should have remembered this change which occured so long ago that you would have thought that the RM team responsible would have known!

Winter Greenery
This was mentioned in the October Philatelic Bulletin but we have had no other confirmation from the Post and Go team, but it is worth mentioning here although we are light on detail.  I suspect some offices may still have old 2014 stock, but there may have been a reprint so we await reports of a printing with R17YAL code - which may not be on both designs (1st/2nd) at any one location! (Thanks to Frankie G who confirms: "2nd class is CL17S and 1st class is R17YAL" - although that does not mean that you will find the new ones in your Post Office branch!)
  "13 November: 2014 Post and Go Winter Greenery: Stamps (2 x 1st Class, 2 x 2nd Class). Post Office Limited (POL) Self-Sservice Kiosk offices and selected sites POL only."

Quite what 'selected sites POL only' means I don't know.  As far as I know all sites which are not branch SSKs are Royal Mail (controlled), eg at Museums, so I have sought clarification on this as well.

UPDATE 23 October
Thanks to RW I can now show images of the 2nd class CL17S Winter Greenery stamp, and the embargo label from the 1st class roll.

 

UPDATE: A few people have contacted me to tell me about the self-adhesive poppy being on sale in their PO not having seen this post on the blog, so I have now added a picture of the stamp to show that this is not just about Post and Go stamps

24 comments:

  1. Why are some of the dates for the introduction of the new Poppy shown as the 20th October and some as the 24th?
    The machine M006 at Croydon Delivery Office has now gone. There is also a machine at Windsor Delivery Office and this is machine No. M005.
    Has anyone seen the new Poppy self-adhesive counter sheet? This has a 'Sell date' which is shown as the 23rd October.

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    2. I can't answer the dates question, but it does give enthusiasts the opportunity to go to two different places on different dates.
      The Croydon machine was M005, not M006; Doncaster seems to still have M006; but 'll notify the people who should already know that they have wrong details for Croydon/Windsor.

      Have you seen the new Poppy sheet - and has it got the year as well as the date?

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  2. Postal Museum replacing Machin wih Poppy. Presumably this means the Machin 50 1st class strip - will the Poppy be 1st class only, or will it revert to the standard Collector's strip ?

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    1. There's no reason why the Poppy should be 6 x 1st, so I assume it will be 6 values.
      The Machin 50 set is 6 different, hence 6 x 1st.

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    2. Standard collectors strip according to email I've had from their shop

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  3. Ian - the Post & Go Poppy has R17YAL, as on Mail By Air, not M17L. Windsor DO has machine M005.

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  4. See that P&G Winter Greenery (2014) is being reintroduced on 13/11/2017 according to Philatelic Bulletin. Has this issue been reprinted with a 'R17YAL' year code ?

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    1. Chris - yes, I've seen them. 2nd class is CL17S and 1st class is R17YAL.

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  5. IS M010 still at Norwich DO

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    1. Believe it is. Still dispensing Hibernating Animals at the rate of two or three transactions a month!

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  6. Self adhesive small format poppy stamp very elusive. Small local post offices have none. I went to the main Mount Pleasant, London Post Office and had no clue what I was talking about. Went to the main Enfield Town Post office and again no clue despite at all branches I visited I showed them pictures of the stamps. Will have another look around tomorrow. Post & Go Poppies at the Postal Museum are year "MA15" whilst the nearby Mount Pleasant Office is dispensing "MAILR17". Will be interesting to see whether if current machine stock run out at the museum they will then have some "17"? Doug (Enfield)
    Doug (Enfield)

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  7. Unbelievably, Windsor DO had poppies MA15 (in from last Thursday apparently). I understand MA15 may have been in other DO machines too. How ridiculous. Was it too difficult to supply R17YAL ?

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    1. There’s Absolutely no point sending new stock to offices which have ample old stock. What you are suggesting could have resulted in those offices using 2017 stock first and then reverting to old stock, and there would have been complaints about that, with justification.

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    2. Ian - Windsor DO (k/a Queen Elizabeth II DO) only opened in April this year, so they were sent old stock - that was my grumble.

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  8. As far as i am aware no new year code was put on the smaller coil that museums & enquiry offices use, I will be pleased if it works out that way. We do not need more varieties.

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  9. Interesting (but trivial?) to note that the 'O' of ROYAL on the Poppies is replaced by two characters '17' to give 'R17YAL'. Would have expected 'R17AL? (Compare CL17S).

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    1. Yes, I noticed that too - odd isn’t it?

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  10. Winter Greenery from 13th Nov at Postal Museum, email received today! No indication as to whether its old or new stock

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    1. I don't think old or new stock really matters on this issue as whatever is in the machine will be new as far as the Postal Museum is concerned because of the overprint.

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  11. The IAR website now confirms the Wintery Greenery being available from the Postal Museum and the Delivery Offices from 13/11/2017

    http://iarroyalmailpostandgo.com/latestnews/winter-greenery-postal-museum/
    http://iarroyalmailpostandgo.com/latestnews/winter-greenery-royal-mail-delivery-offices/

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  12. The Poppy and the Machin 2nd class will be replaced on the 13th November 2017 with the Christmas issue for this year so the last day of the Poppy at the Postal Museum will be the 12th November 2017 and not the 23/11/17 as given in the table.

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  13. The Galleries in Bristol told me just now that they not having Winter Greenery available until tomorrow! They apparently have the new stock but maybe the Monday release may have caught them out?

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