tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post1453123946078663657..comments2024-03-29T07:57:55.016+00:00Comments on Norvic Philatelics Blog: Newsflash - new tariffs for 2018Ian - Norvichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16436130277706268046noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-72545989426711362782018-03-21T09:54:53.135+00:002018-03-21T09:54:53.135+00:00Hi Ian, just an update, I successfully ordered the...Hi Ian, just an update, I successfully ordered the £2.25 stamp from TH using the code DS225NVC I am surprised but happy.petemkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04444483566044974093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-74456043748994899972018-03-12T10:45:58.437+00:002018-03-12T10:45:58.437+00:00As Royal Mail don't take any notice of the sec...As Royal Mail don't take any notice of the security coding, from the point of view of identifying stamps, this is no different to the 2015 original issue. Therefore it is not a visible change, but a non-visible change. <br /><br />However, when the 78p, 88p & £1.88 stamps were printed first by Walsall and then by De La Rue, TH sent out the DLR printings on the basis of a VISIBLE change:<br /><br /> "The new distribution now is on the basis of 'visible change' - NOT, we understand, the fact that the year code is MA13 and not Walsall's M13L, but because the sheet margin shows a different printer by the cylinder number."<br /><br />See http://blog.norphil.co.uk/2013/07/royal-mails-british-philatelic-bulletin.html<br /><br />Inconsistency is nothing new for Tallents House, so this should not come as a surprise: or perhaps they are just accepting that they got it wrong in 2013.Ian - Norvichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16436130277706268046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-64778408912960725842018-03-12T10:36:54.325+00:002018-03-12T10:36:54.325+00:00I have just been on to TH to ask why the reprinted...I have just been on to TH to ask why the reprinted £2.25 with date code M18L is being classed as a NVC issue. On my regular order I have visible changes required, waiting for a call back so will keep you informedpetemkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04444483566044974093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-1628105473871221502018-03-08T01:26:02.982+00:002018-03-08T01:26:02.982+00:00The 'First' is showing post tariff rates. ...The 'First' is showing post tariff rates. This surprisingly also includes the Country Definitive FDC as costing £5.16, where as it should be £5.11 Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-37190299616195628652018-03-07T17:00:23.196+00:002018-03-07T17:00:23.196+00:00Ignore the headline (copied from the local newspap...Ignore the headline (copied from the local newspaper) but read the article. The contract was up for renewal a year or more ago, but I don't know from what date it would operate - obviously not immediately. Maybe DLR have moved all stamps to Malta; maybe they didn't even bid? ISPW did emergency printings of 78p, 88p & £1.88 so they are not unused to doing counter sheets.<br /><br />http://blog.norphil.co.uk/2015/12/gateshead-printer-de-la-rue-loses.htmlIan - Norvichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16436130277706268046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-5185844478067031032018-03-07T15:32:50.501+00:002018-03-07T15:32:50.501+00:00Does anyone know why ISP are printing the 2018 Mac...Does anyone know why ISP are printing the 2018 Machin tariff change stamps ? Previously Machin counter sheets were printed by De La Rue. ISP (Walsall and Cartor) now print the whole Royal Mail range and source of stamps. DLR printed the 2017 Christmas counter sheets; will this be for the last time ? And what about Enschede ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-47575279092945806312018-03-07T12:15:17.892+00:002018-03-07T12:15:17.892+00:00My dealer order form also shows £16.30, but that i...My dealer order form also shows £16.30, but that is selling NVIs at new rates. At old rates the price would be £16.16. Website is correct, and regular customers should only be charged £16.16, as mentioned by Petermk earlier today (couple of posts above ^ )Ian - Norvichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16436130277706268046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-51051967785763700412018-03-07T12:10:44.227+00:002018-03-07T12:10:44.227+00:00Just received my "First" from RM and on ...Just received my "First" from RM and on page 6 the cost of a Country Definitive Pres'n Pack CP036 is £16.30, yet on RM's website it has a cost of £16.15. Typo or what ??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-46722884906789386822018-03-07T11:13:13.161+00:002018-03-07T11:13:13.161+00:00Yes Ian I complained to RM and just received an E ...Yes Ian I complained to RM and just received an E Mail to say I will only be charged the current rate for the Country 1st & 2nd class issue.petemkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04444483566044974093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-17050484943464753462018-02-26T12:04:50.278+00:002018-02-26T12:04:50.278+00:00The 'problem' with the Regional stamps (an...The 'problem' with the Regional stamps (and of course many Commemoratives) is that they are 'gummed' and not self adhesive. To some this doesn't matter but if you are doing a bit of eBay trading or a small trader then many times you need to use a plastic type of envelope or bag. Gummed stamps won't adhere. I recognise that larger businesses will use labels and probably don't queue at a PO counter to purchase stamps. There was a lot of debate moving towards self-adhesive and one argument is that they are more hygienic i.e. not having to lick them. A significant number of POs that I visit don't recognise the word 'Regional' and hence have no idea what such stamps look like. I do find, however, that some POs have Regional stamps in their counter book but are tucked away at the back and never get used. I did once spot some higher value (I think at the time they were the 97p English) and enquired whether they get asked for. The reply was something along the lines "oh I think we were sent them with our normal supply at one point, but we just put them in the book, nobody ever asks for them....". At a Crown Office (recently closed and now in W H Smiths) I did ask for some 1st class English stamps. That caused total confusion and you can imagine the responses!! I don't think I have ever received a letter (other than containing some promotional material or catalogue from a stamp dealer) with a regional stamp affixed.<br />Doug (Enfield) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-57653330436318156142018-02-26T10:41:06.641+00:002018-02-26T10:41:06.641+00:00I have been told:
The prices listed are post Tari...I have been told:<br /><br /><i>The prices listed are post Tariff, all orders between 20th & 25th March will be billed at the appropriate rate.<br /><br />This will also apply to standard customers who will be advised accordingly.</i><br /><br />Which doesn't seem to tie in with what is shown on standard customers' DD advices. My advice is to ask for a refund if you get overcharged!Ian - Norvichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16436130277706268046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-54733016026254231592018-02-25T17:30:25.315+00:002018-02-25T17:30:25.315+00:00I've raised this with TH because they made the...I've raised this with TH because they made the same error on dealer's order forms.Ian - Norvichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16436130277706268046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-74960060452674972862018-02-25T10:05:39.475+00:002018-02-25T10:05:39.475+00:00Has anyone else noticed that RM are charging the n...Has anyone else noticed that RM are charging the new 1st & 2nd class rates for the new printings of country 1st & 2nd , 6 days before the new rates come into force? A bit unfair I think.petemkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04444483566044974093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-12393232172548857752018-02-24T09:36:26.474+00:002018-02-24T09:36:26.474+00:00Perhaps the £3.30 stamp will reappear on the next ...Perhaps the £3.30 stamp will reappear on the next TH Stocklist, as by then it will be Zone 1 100g large letter rate as you say Ian. This begs the question, will it ever be reprinted on SBP2 ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-25528109571986103722018-02-23T20:30:11.439+00:002018-02-23T20:30:11.439+00:00A diminishing amount of revenue with the diminishi...A diminishing amount of revenue with the diminishing number of collectors who have standing orders. And bear in mind that the Machin FDC will have only 4 stamps on it, missing the £2.25 which is also new. It may not get a new SG number, but it is a new printer and a new year code. I'll be doing a few FDCs with all five stamps on.Ian - Norvichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16436130277706268046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-84845004355480336852018-02-23T20:28:06.402+00:002018-02-23T20:28:06.402+00:00Let's expand on that: ALL the definitives issu...Let's expand on that: ALL the definitives issued 24/03/15 have their last sale date as 21/03/18. That looks logical until you realise that the two you mention are still valid rates today and would normally be expected to be available for a year at least after they ceased to be used at POs. And the £3.30 (Zone 2 100g Large Letter) will be the Zone 1 100g Large Letter rate.....<br /><br />But I can see why they will be off philatelic sale: I haven't sold any of these for months! Any collector who hasn't bought them well before now, should have done so.Ian - Norvichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16436130277706268046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-22645731636885243302018-02-23T20:13:17.396+00:002018-02-23T20:13:17.396+00:00I have a standing order from Royal Mail for defini...I have a standing order from Royal Mail for definitives and first day covers of definitives. I've just got a letter saying the tariff changes will cost me £52.49! I thought it was a misprint at first. They must get quite a lot of revenue from collectors simply by varying prices!Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-7205153080442800522018-02-23T19:40:50.463+00:002018-02-23T19:40:50.463+00:00As regards the £3.15 and £3.30 stamps issued on 24...As regards the £3.15 and £3.30 stamps issued on 24/03/15, the TH Stocklist says that the 'last sale date' will be 21/03/18.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-5343041084557189372018-02-23T14:32:39.444+00:002018-02-23T14:32:39.444+00:00Thank you Ian, I will keep you posted. I will cont...Thank you Ian, I will keep you posted. I will contact TH in 2 weeks as today they could give me no information at all.petemkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04444483566044974093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-1515297404769596422018-02-23T13:37:39.162+00:002018-02-23T13:37:39.162+00:00Yours is the same as Anonymous21 February 2018 at ...Yours is the same as Anonymous21 February 2018 at 18:52, but without the £2.25. So I assume you have only 'visible' changes, and you won't get the £2.25 unless you order it separately. It's a new stamp - product code is DS225NVC. (At least, that's the number dealers have been given: will be interesting to see how you get on ordering it!)Ian - Norvichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16436130277706268046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-78695459447354802662018-02-23T13:20:37.565+00:002018-02-23T13:20:37.565+00:00With reference to my previous post, my order advic...With reference to my previous post, my order advice note quotes £23.15 , I have tried to work out what I will receive but i cannot account for what stamps I will receive, roll on 20th March :-) on the point of the £2.25 stamp my letter says that all customers who have opted for non visible change definitives will automatically receive this stamp. wait and see time.petemkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04444483566044974093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-2711128625552881942018-02-22T14:49:01.180+00:002018-02-22T14:49:01.180+00:00Thank you for the congratulations Ian. I seem to r...Thank you for the congratulations Ian. I seem to recall reading about the country 1st and 2nd class 'value' design change somewhere on your splendid website, but I could be wrong. The BPB April 2017, page 238, has a short report about the change of type font. As regards ISP printing the new £2.25 value I presume this will be the subsidiary Walsall. Some years ago due to a mix-up both De la Rue and Walsall printed the 78p 88p and £1.88 tariff changes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-42571406022886937812018-02-22T14:48:11.130+00:002018-02-22T14:48:11.130+00:00Just had my order advice note from TH, RM are cert...Just had my order advice note from TH, RM are certainly bashing the collectors this year, the 2 sets of stamps Definitive & Country will cost £23.15 that is some price hike. But I fail to see why they continue with the 'Country' stamps, apart from stamp dealers I have never had one on a letter sent to me, a complete waste of time I think. (Moved from RAF post - IB)petemknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-82128722845423792322018-02-22T14:46:27.046+00:002018-02-22T14:46:27.046+00:00I don't think RM are looking for a UK printer;...I don't think RM are looking for a UK printer; ISP print in gravure at Wolverhampton and Litho at Cartor's premises near Paris.Ian - Norvichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16436130277706268046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-61379575088648114.post-66891367552341794272018-02-22T11:52:37.180+00:002018-02-22T11:52:37.180+00:00Going back to this from http://blog.norphil.co.uk/...Going back to this from http://blog.norphil.co.uk/2015/12/gateshead-printer-de-la-rue-loses.html, could Royal Mail be seeking a UK based printer for their stamps if ISP are printing the £2.25, if so what fate will befall Cartors’ output?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com